MAMEWorld Forums - EmuChat - Re: HLSL changes by anikom15

> You're incredible, I want to go to sleep but you continue to be so unbearably
> dishonest, mg.
>
> > Best I know BGFX stuff was implemented to spec, it
> > gives an extra frame of lag
> No, three.
>

Well it was one last time somebody reported it, but as I've said, it's not our field.

> > I think the only fools are those not actually doing anything to help to cause, but
> > instead just demanding the existing team make changes that aren't really within the
> > skillset they have.
> Bullshit.
>

How? Why are you continuing to insist that people without a clue do the work?

> > If the community lets MAME down, then yes, RA will just take over.
> If MAME lets the community down (which it very does by ignoring and looking down on
> user players) then RA will just take over (which is well engaged already, your fault
> not ours)

and vast parts of the community are always going to think this if we don't bend to every request, no matter how detrimental it is to the project. This 'MAME hates users' 'problem' has been around for ages, and is the first thing people shout if they don't like something, be it performance, not overclocking games by default, not trying to map things to 3d hardware in ugly unreliable ways, not having a 'jump straight to title screen' option, emulating mahjong games instead of what people want to see, not maintaining compatibility with every out of date incomplete or broken romset that they could possibly download... it's been brought up so many times over the years as a weapon it's meaningless at this point, most of it isn't even anything that can be reasonably dealt with.

the rest seem to think this because they don't realise that if they want MAME to improve they actually have to put in the work rather than relying on devs with the wrong skills.

RA devs are a bunch of non emulation developers.

MAME devs are a bunch of emulation developers.

RA devs as a result leech off the work done by the actual emulation developers by wrapping it up in their frontend, and getting seemingly every capable frontend developer to contribute to that instead, starving MAME of the non-emulation developers needed all the while presenting themselves as the ultimate gateway to everything emulation to the point where a majority think it's where the real work happens. (which further feeds into the loop of people wanting to be associated with that)

Unless the community can influence that to change, it's not going to change.

Forcing emulation developers to do non emulation work is not the answer, which is all you seem to be pushing for with every single one of your posts.

Ultimately the most likely result is that MAME will abandon everything except the emulation code because there are no new non-emulation devs to maintain the non-emulation code as they all got hoovered up by RA. This will then severely limit what MAME can actually do. If the community wants to avoid that situation, they must do something about it beyond harassing the emulation devs.

If the community lets MAME down, the community lets MAME down, but calling the emulation devs 'fools' just because they don't have an interest in working on things that don't suit their skillset isn't productive, isn't constructive criticism, and instead simply shows a complete lack of understanding.