MAMEWorld Forums - Welcome to the War Room - Re: Native American drum guy situation

>>days knows the fraud (cadet Bone spurs) in the WH is a fake
>> himself and is very likely a lackey to Putin.

>A Lackey to Putin. I thought you were a pretty smart guy, and here you are singing the same
>old bullshit that the dumbest of the left sing every single day, because they don't have
>any real facts.

The photo from the Helsinki 2018 meeting is pretty damning itself and that is more than just 'low stamina'. That photo was when both entered the press room before the media to give their press briefings.

https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/intel...710.h473.2x.jpg

What the photo somewhat tell is Putin had the upper hand in the private room discussions between (Putin, Putin's translator, and the 'low stamina' himself). From news reports at the time, a few from the US IC communities had felt any leader needs multiple eyewitnesses when doing negotiations. iirc former Sec of State Rex Tillerson had also questioned the arrangement and felt a US translator should have also been there with discussions. Why would a leader of a country set himself up by being only representative in the room without another US eyewitness in the same room? I will say it seems suspicious.

Some of the former leaders of Intelligence Community agencies have also questioned moves such as (John Brennan, James Clapper, a couple others, but forget names at this time), and add to that others such as Malcom Nance and Clint Watt although Clint isn't as direct compared to what Malcom has stated. And add likes of former staff members from W.' administration.

Former W. Bush staff member that was in charge of ethics in White House, Richard
Painter has joined the club of others guessing what is happening to the sob-in-office.

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Bush ethics lawyer Richard Painter: 'Substantial chance' Trump is being blackmailed by Putin

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211683620

There are reports that a draft version of Mueller’s report has just been written and it concludes that Trump was used by Vladimir Putin and Russia to destabilize America.

That makes sense and is plausible. Given Trump’s behavior during the campaign, electing him president would certainly destabilize America and the country’s democracy.

Now, how much Donald Trump has actively been working with Vladimir Putin to destabilize the country is what must be discovered and made publicly known. Do not overlook that Donald Trump is an inherently unstable person. He’s never been able to have stable businesses or stable marriages. It is then wholly predictable that Donald Trump would be unable to have a stable presidency. It could be that Putin put Trump in the presidency knowing that he is just an unstable person to begin with. But it could be true that Putin has information to leverage and blackmail Trump too.

entire article at https://www.rawstory.com/2019/01/bush-et...ckmailed-putin/

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> He's kicked Russian Diplomats out of the country. How about this stuff?

That was during Obama's last few weeks in office in December 2016 as Commander-in-Chief before leaving. Obama and administration did that while taking the Russian offices in Maryland and New York. iirc those properties were handed back to Russia and some of the diplomats returned when leadership had transitioned.

>Trump is at least smart enough to show a bit of diplomacy, so he took Putin
>at his word about some shit. Ok.

He does not know how to negotiate or work with other world leaders. He only knows how to act like he still runs his questionable real estate properties. He folds his arms when upset and throws a temper tantrum when having to go to world meetings such as previous G-20 summits.

> He's also the only President since the cold war to fucking
>KILL RUSSIANS (Syria... look it up. Yes, he's the Commander in Chief and has EVERYTHING
>to do with what happened).

He let former Gen. Mattis make the decision to have US Troops move into Syria, a mistake imo, because the US Troops were sitting targets inside Syria even though they were there to go after Islamic state. The troops should have stayed outside in Iraq or elsewhere while getting airstrike directions from the Kurds (only consistent reliable ally in there compared to the questionable FSA (Free Syrian Army)

iirc the Syrian stationed US forces had to fight it out with several hundred Russian mercenaries near some oil refineries. These Russian mercenaries were hired by some mercenary outfit that was run by one of Putin's oligarch henchmen (Putin's personal chef). That would have been in March or April 2017. Fortunately Mattis was in charge because had 'President bonespurs' been controlling things, he probably would have had the US forces surrender to the Russian mercenaries.

US forces were fortunate to have only had to fight Russian mercenaries forces. It would have gotten far worse had the attack also been carried out with regular Russian military included.

>No president in decades has given Russia a bigger "FUCK YOU" than Trump. Trump has had
>hundreds of businesses and many of them in real-estate.

He has also gone bankrupt many multiple times that US based financial institutions weren't going to loan him anymore. He has had to go outside for loans and some likely include Russian mafia associates that had money to loan.

The NY attorney general has already closed down his charity organization and had any remaining funds distributed to legitimate NY charities. Once the NY state tax revenue services start going through records, this is where evidence will likely be apparent of how the real estate transactions were handled and if transactions were fronts for money laundering purposes.

The former FBI administration (James Comey) and agents such as Strozek and McCabe were previously involved in going after US based Russian mafia associates. Coincidental that all three including a few others have been fired over past couple years? I'd say suspicious.

>and send it to Mueller too, so this multi-million dollar waste of time can be ended.

Mueller and Special Council staff along with the various US Intelligence communities will have this when they are ready at their own pace. What they are having to go through is a more complex crime than Nixon's Watergate of the 1970s.

>> It was a gutsy and questionable move imo, but the Native American group needed a few
>> football size linemen in front of them to clear the path.

>What the fuck are you on about? They didn't need a path. They didn't need to purposefully
>push their way through a crowd of teenagers waiting for their bus. So.. the Indians who
>didn't need to be there, and certainly didn't need to barge their way into a crowd of
>children were in the right, and chaperones should have moved the kids away from the place
>they were supposed to be waiting for their bus to go home?

What Nathan and group did was questionable to begin with, but had no shutdown taken place the park service personnel would have likely been around the area and immediately intervened. Going by the BHI guy's video, I only saw steps and the memorial in the background (never been there myself and will have to look it up). If the particular high school boys were having to wait, the chaperones should have moved them along to another area. If that means moving the boys five football fields away, then do so.

The blame is the high school boys chaperones not doing their job that they were supposed to. The other stuff would not have happened. The BHI guys likely had a park permit to do their crazy talk and expletives since it is First Amendment issue. So they are not at fault unless they said something stupid like "threatening to kill the boys", then it becomes a legal matter.

As for Nathan and members involved, a questionable move imo and it likely would not have gone that far if there were no federal government shutdown.

btw: if the Cincinnati archdiocese let things go unpunished especially against the chaperones and maybe other staff that let boys their stuff, then archdiocese is at fault as well for not keeping boys safe.