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Re: Instead of that
02/16/18 05:29 PM


> > How about we make modern TVs better by working to get rid of the latency,
> supporting
> > old resolutions/refresh rates beside the new and even including the older inputs.
> > Including advanced screen configuration options would also be nice.
>
> Supporting more resolutions requires upscaling. That's more processing, and more ways
> to make the picture look subjectively "bad".
>
> Analog inputs need to be digitised before you can feed them to an LCD, and you get
> even more issues with analog distortion, phasing, etc. Remember having to display a
> black/white pixel chequerboard to get perfect phase alignment when changing
> resolution on VGA-input LCDs?
>
> Advanced screen configurations is more stuff for people to screw up. What do you
> actually want, anyway? Besides brightness, contrast, gamma and target colour
> temperature, you're left with silly gimmicks that just make the displayed image look
> less like the source material.
>
> > Yes, realize some of this might not be possible and manufacturers are to damn
> > interested in selling shit.
>
> No, they're interested in making a profit. Margins on TVs are actually pretty thin -
> that's why so many manufacturers have pulled out of the market. People will pay for
> big and bright, but for the most part they don't actually appreciate faithful
> rendition. You end up with gimmicks added to try and attract consumers while at the
> same time making severe compromises like chroma subsampling.

100% Agree on that. Also the marketing is so wrong. Instead of pushing 4K HDR monitors at a size 35" <, they try to do that for the consumer tv market, where the entry 4k HDR models start at 55". At a distance of 2-2,5meters and on a 55" tv, the human eye wont see a difference between a 2k and 4k picture, except the tv is much, much bigger (80">).
Sony is actually the only manufacturer, that has models with only Full HD support, but with HDR technology onboard and the biggest is 49" (which makes sense).

On the other hand, if you just sit 35" away from screen (typical for pc work/gaming), you will see the difference from 2k to 4k HDR no matter what. But this niche is barely filled with acceptable price tag models.

GroovyMAME and a Trisync-CRT is still the most enjoyable setup i can imagine. At this point, i want to say that i am grateful for the linked article. It was nice to read .







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Subject Posted by Posted on
* Inside the desperate fight to keep old TVs alive B2K24 02/11/18 11:50 PM
. * Instead of that DiodeDude  02/12/18 02:12 AM
. * Re: Instead of that Vas Crabb  02/12/18 01:23 PM
. * Re: Instead of that uman  02/16/18 05:29 PM
. * Re: Instead of that smf  02/17/18 07:55 PM
. * Re: Instead of that uman  02/17/18 08:59 PM
. * Re: Instead of that MooglyGuy  02/18/18 12:37 AM
. * Re: Instead of that smf  02/20/18 10:11 PM
. * Re: Instead of that R. Belmont  02/13/18 06:39 PM
. * Re: Instead of that DiodeDude  02/12/18 02:41 PM
. * Re: Instead of that Nate  02/12/18 04:51 PM
. * I know this DiodeDude  02/12/18 07:28 PM
. * Re: I know this smf  02/13/18 01:48 AM

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