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Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering?
06/01/16 03:45 AM


> Surely the solution to this is to grab GroovyMame .171, and use it?
>
> Sure you won't get some of the newer Mame features, but you simply have to prioritize
> what's more important to you.
The thing is integer scaling is something I use a lot too and it's very difficult to achieve on 0.171 (you have to find and apply working H & V strecth values, found a few but they don't always fall exactly right) decent options for attending sync, lag and scaling matters all in MAME without needing more power nor special/specific hardware is what I've always been waiting for, and every time there's a step or two forward there are as much backwards so it's frustrating, with GM it came very close.

It's normal to expect an emulator to tend towards that at least reasonably so, because you can't speak about correct emulation and preservation and leave choppy scrollings , too much input delay, and crappy/artifactey scaling if it's possible not to, and GM proved it is possible to do better than what baseline MAME does (like bringing integer scaling since 0.172 indeed).

@anikom15: I call you a cunt because you are, go give lessons about piracy eslewhere, who the hell do you think you are ? MAME is an emulator and the fucking entire world knows what it's used for, and you come here to bitch on them ? And I've owned a supergun and boards for a long time you idiot, but now even crappy old boards I could find at 100 back in the day exchange for like 1000, I'm not a fucking bourgeois. You are ? well good for you.
Oh and, go break a leg or two.

@uman: how would that work ? it's not supposed to work anymore since -mt has been removed (?)
Do you know that implementation, how it works with switchres etc ? If it's possible to rebuild a 0.174 with the same system working then I'll try, it just wasn't supposed to be possible because of the recent changes.
Or would it be possible to port back integer scaling to GM 0.171 until ?
I don't have any actual criticism against Calamity's work, quite the contrary, but it does look like he's gone. Hope he's actually well too, anyway I think it's always better to give news from time-to-time, even briefly and even if there's nothing actually new. Well whatever.
PS: Also I have a CRT but I don't carry it around (I switch places often coz of my job) it's hard to rotate for vertical games, and it's getting really old/tired now.
As for LCDs you would be surprised to see how much I know about those, it's precisely why I know the value of GM's specificities.
But here on MW if you disagree or have criticism, everyone especially mamedev right-off assumes you don't know a thing in the world, and don't even imagine they could be the ones unaware or missing the point.

@SoltanGris42: How woud you know what I have tried ? Like OP I've tried many combinations but never got the same performance as GM, and what you're describing is not what I'm expecting. For MK I would maybe apply GM's equivalent of double buffering, but I don't play that game.
And when I'm not using frame_delay + vsync_offset for the games that have the most lag I want to eliminate, I use D3D9ex, which buffers less on Windows and gives me the snappiest response.
I realize many people are not actually aware of what GroovyMAME does better with its system around SwitchRes.
Nobody gives a damn or doesn't want to hear about that particular topic I know, I'm fighting a lost battle and I'll get dragged into the mud anyway, people line up to ridicule whatever point you try to make, it's always like that on MW whatever the topic if it implies disagreement or criticism.
But I don't care, I know I'm right on that one.
I'm done anyway, nothing to add.


> MAME isn't about playing the games anyway.







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* Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane 05/29/16 08:31 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  05/30/16 09:10 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R. Belmont  05/31/16 06:16 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  05/31/16 09:18 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Calamity  06/02/16 12:25 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  06/02/16 07:04 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R. Belmont  06/01/16 04:35 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? StilettoAdministrator  06/01/16 05:20 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? uman  06/01/16 05:19 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 12:55 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? uman  05/31/16 11:59 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? B2K24  05/31/16 10:46 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  05/31/16 11:38 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 12:58 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? uman  06/01/16 12:04 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 01:07 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Firehawke  06/01/16 04:15 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 04:21 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R. Belmont  06/01/16 04:37 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 07:21 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 08:34 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 08:45 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 09:48 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 09:55 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 11:20 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 11:32 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Traso  06/02/16 05:49 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? uman  06/01/16 02:40 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 02:31 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Reznor007  06/01/16 01:22 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 01:46 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Firehawke  06/01/16 04:18 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 04:54 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? SoltanGris42  06/01/16 02:56 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Traso  06/01/16 10:12 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? SoltanGris42  06/02/16 05:18 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 02:35 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Vaughan  06/01/16 02:24 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R. Belmont  06/01/16 04:40 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Vaughan  06/01/16 08:20 PM
. * Unwarranted user hostility Firehawke  06/01/16 11:34 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R. Belmont  06/01/16 10:46 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? B2K24  06/01/16 11:16 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 08:41 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Traso  06/01/16 10:10 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Firehawke  06/01/16 11:38 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 03:45 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 06:33 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? LensLarque  06/01/16 01:01 PM
. * Hehn hehn hehn hehn hehn hehn Traso  06/01/16 10:00 PM
. * Re: Hehn hehn hehn hehn hehn hehn LensLarque  06/01/16 10:23 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  06/01/16 09:55 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  05/31/16 06:30 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? StilettoAdministrator  05/31/16 07:14 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  05/31/16 08:17 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? MooglyGuy  05/29/16 10:16 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  05/30/16 08:49 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  05/31/16 02:09 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  05/31/16 01:46 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  05/31/16 04:46 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Firehawke  06/01/16 04:29 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? MooglyGuy  06/01/16 01:09 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  06/01/16 02:18 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? MooglyGuy  06/01/16 03:43 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? B2K24  05/29/16 09:50 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  05/29/16 08:50 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  05/29/16 09:51 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  05/29/16 10:42 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  05/29/16 10:52 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Firehawke  05/30/16 01:10 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R.Coltrane  05/30/16 04:15 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  05/30/16 07:53 AM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? R. Belmont  05/31/16 06:15 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Haze  05/30/16 09:01 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? anikom15  05/29/16 11:00 PM
. * Re: Is there any way to effectively reduce screen tearing/flickering? Envisaged0ne  05/29/16 09:44 PM

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