MAMEWorld Forums - EmuChat - Re: Recording a video after playing it

> > I didn't ignore R. Belmont. I just don't happen to think it matters even half as
> much
> > as you do. Is that really so bad? I'm sure he did some great work, I'm very pleased
> > for him. However, does he really think it's the end of the world that monitors are
> > now 16:9?
>
> I had the first 16:9 TV on my block, and I programmed some of the first games that
> could display true 16:9 with a wider FOV (and without making the characters fatter).
> That said, I never, *ever* ran 4:3 games stretched out, because much like Moogly's
> Mona Lisa example, it looks fucking dreadful, and I had more respect for the original
> creators (some of whom were me) than that.

Good to know. We have a very different views and ways of looking at things. I don't see how my playing a 4:3 game stretched to 16:9 is disrespectful to the original creator/s. Actually, it has nothing whatsoever to do with them - it's neither a commentary on them, nor an opinion. I'm just playing a game to suit myself. I don't feel I have some abiding contract with the creator to not stretch an image (which costs them nothing) or to not use AUTOFIRE, or XPadder or whatever. The creator put the game together, but the copy on my machine is mine to do with as I please.

On the other hand, the fact that I want to play their game at all after all these years is, I suppose, a complement to them in that I still find value in what they put together.

>
> > I hope he at least has the maturity
> > to know that times change, people have different preferences, and at the end of the
> > day, it's playing the game that's important, you know, having fun.
>
> I know that times change. I also know that if someone projected a 4:3 classic movie
> like Casablanca and stretched it out to where Bogart appeared to be a Person of
> Wal-Mart there would be film-geek riots. I believe video games are an important
> cultural artifact and are worthy of the same sort of accurate presentation.
>

Movies are something i spend more time with than video games. I can assure you, while someone saying they prefer an academy ratio film stretched would draw a lot of criticism, it wouldn't be even half of the mean-spirited, vitriolic, childish, and bullying tactics employed on this site. That's not a good thing. To add some humor to it, I was accused of destroying the community.

What's destroy the community is the kinds of responses posted in this thread. Nice people these Mame folk..... not.

> > Coz, while they
> > might prefer it in 4:3, it's not a deal breaker, the be-all and end-all. Maybe it's
> > the complete package - design, gameplay, difficulty, peoples love for their
> creation,
> > etc. that counts for a lot.
>
> Video games, as I've been told repeatedly during my career when I got too uppity
> about making game audio great, are called that because of the graphics. If you aren't
> viewing the graphics in OAR, then you aren't playing the game properly. Period.

Right. I'm not playing it in its OAR. Everything else is good to go, just not the aspect ratio. I've never claimed otherwise. I agree with you. Where we differ is that you seem to see this as a huge insult - whereas I just can't understand why it bothers you so much. I'm one guy, playing a game in my living room. I made a post in a public forum that everyone is free to respond to. It's not a big deal. Those who disagree can say so, those with advice can give it. Just about the least effective response is to attack the person with venomous bile. Just saying (not directing it at you, since you don't agree with me, but are at least on the same side of adulthood).

>
> > I have not denied the developers and artists an opinion. It's you that wants to
> lock
> > down opinions. It's not a black and white issue - it's a preference.
>
> No, it really isn't. We're talking about the technical parameters the game was
> designed for, just as movies are intended to be viewed in some specific aspect ratio.

Technical parameters that have no effect on gameplay. None. Therefore, it's no big deal if it's changed, imo.

>
> > By the wau, what does "special snowflake" mean? Who is "fat Chun-Li"? What does it
> > have to do with this topic?
>
> A "special snowflake" is someone who yells about "safe spaces" when confronted with
> reality. "Fat Chun-Li" is what happens when persons like yourself make the "choice"
> to play Street Fighter II stretched to 16:9.

Oh. I actually don't play fighting games, so references to them are lost on me. I don't see how "special snowflake" applies to this topic, but whatever.

>
> > Can you name a single instance where the community was hurt by someone
> > playing a game on a 16:9 screen out of OAR?
>
> Yes, it's happening right now. People who don't know any better are watching the OP's
> YouTube videos and assuming that's how the games are supposed to look, which is
> frankly awful.

Nah, I think you're wrong - or hyper-sensitive. If someone watches the videos by the OP, they may be moved to try out Mame themselves. With a default install they get OAR. At worst the video shows them that there is an option to play the game stretched. No harm is done.

It begs the question - why does Mame have the option to stretch? If it's such an abhorent thing to do, such an attack on the original developers, then why has Mame dev put it in?