MAMEWorld Forums - EmuChat - Re: Tempest MAME problems

> 1) Tempest is one of the oldest ROMsets in MAME. By this time, I can't imagine there
> was any activity on the Tempest driver in the last 50 versions of MAME

You'd think so, but you would be wrong.

> 2) Because I'm trying to work on my Tempest game and was using MAME for some
> assistance. I wasn't trying to test MAME.

Most people who encounter bugs aren't.

> I encountered some MAME issues and I
> thought it would be worthwhile to report them.

Indeed it is, after verifying the bugs still exist with the most recent version.

> Not as easy and quick and straightforward as it sounds. As I said, I was working on
> my cabinet, not on MAME. I didn't want to spend the next hour or however long or
> short to download the latest MAME, especially knowing nothing has changed in the
> Tempest driver in a long time.

It takes you an hour to download 40 megabytes? Where do you live, Zimbabwe?

> Ok, I know those are not acceptable answers to you all,

You're right, they're not.

> so I just went to download
> the latest version. Now all the ROMsets I had that did work in my previous version,
> that have since been updated, no longer work.

Bad dumps get redumped, additional programmable devices get dumped and added to ROM sets. I know, I know, a project that exists to document arcade hardware actually being kept up-to-date to include dumps of devices that weren't dumped back when it was the 90's and it was a free-for-all of any jackass with a twenty-dollar ROM programmer? Heresy!

> So all the games I had that were
> working fine are gone and I have to acquire all those ROMs again.

How terrible!

> Further, I'm running a Windows XP 32 bit machine, when I try to run MAME64 (using
> MAME GUI MAMEUI with the 164 version), I get an error that it's not a Win32 machine.

Running a 64-bit version of MAME doesn't work on a 32-bit machine? You don't say!

> Ok, again, I know the feedback will be, go out and buy an updated computer, then
> download MAME and test again.

Yep, that's pretty much what my feedback would be.

> Wow, thanks for all that help.

You're welcome. Your poverty is not the MAME team's problem.

> I thought I was helping
> by reporting a problem (which, by the way, has been confirmed on the current MAME by
> a MAME developer friend, so I didn't see a problem reporting it from an old version).

Oh perfect, then we've hit upon an ideal solution: Assign every user his or her own personal MAME developer friend, so that nobody ever has to update MAME and we can all ignore the rules surrounding bug reports.

> Never mind I guess.

Apparently not.

> Hey wait, couldn't any of you guys help by testing on your current version of MAME?

What makes your time more valuable than ours?

> You probably could have confirmed the problem quicker than writing the replies to me
> saying to run the test again with the current version and all ROMsets.

Yeah, probably. I can't imagine why people weren't positively falling over themselves to verify your bug, what with your cheery attitude and all.

> No, you just
> prefer to beat on me because I didn't use the exact current version.

If asking you to verify the bug with an up-to-date version of MAME is "beating on you", I shudder to think what you'll call this response. Mind-rape? Digital sodomy? The mind boggles!

> So since I have an old PC that can't run the current version, could any of you run
> the test and report back?

Yeah, people probably could, but again, I can't imagine why people aren't absolutely falling over themselves to help you. Not to mention that you still haven't answered my question as to why your time is so much more important than everyone else's.

> Joe

Mog