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Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame?
04/03/13 02:42 AM


> > I don't doubt what you're saying, but can you explain why this would be? Why not
> have
> > those extra graphical and internal resolution options available if the gpu's are
> > capable?
>
> Putting aside for a moment that MAME is about preserving old games, including their
> limitations.
>
> There is no free lunch. To enable higher resolutions it's not always just a case of
> changing one line of code. Pete's PSX GPU plugins
> (http://www.pbernert.com/html/gpu.htm) for example have to run a software emulator as
> well as the accelerated renderer because the game can read from the frame buffer.
>
> > Why not incorporate them into MAME, while other 3D emus such as
> > SuperModel/Model2 emu/Dolphin, etc has them already? Just wondering.
>
> As other emulators are available, then why do we need to incorporate it into MAME?
>
> What you're asking for is for people to dedicate more time to something they don't
> want, when other software already does it.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Fair enough, but I'm not sure your reply explains the whole picture. There are many other aspects of MAME that allow certain things to be done that pass or "enhances" the original games' limitation.

Why for example, can we turn on bi-linear filtering?

Why is Triple Buffering allowed?

Why is there support for screen effect png files?

Why allow us to run the games in 48000Hz sound?

Why allow cheat files to be used?

Why allow us to any controller we want to play any game?

Is Ms Pac-man really being authentically preserved when we can play it with an xbox analog stick or even a steering wheel?

How exactly would having graphical effects as an option, with the ability to simply to use them *IF* desired, be detrimental to the authenticity of the game, when all the other above mentioned things are already available in MAME?

Furthermore, if it's striving for 100% authenticity why is there still no force feedback for any of the driving games that originally supported it?

See where I'm going with this? All the other things have been implemented in MAME but the line has been drawn at hardware graphical effects support....why?

Again, I'm not criticizing the emu. I love the mame devs to death and I'm eternally grateful for what they've given us. I'm just looking for a bit of rational clarity.







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* Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006 02/15/13 06:47 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Heihachi_73  02/16/13 01:58 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  02/16/13 10:59 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? mesk  02/16/13 09:19 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  02/17/13 02:09 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Anonymous  03/29/13 10:07 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  03/30/13 05:58 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Anonymous  04/02/13 01:28 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  04/03/13 02:42 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  04/03/13 03:59 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Anonymous  04/03/13 12:56 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Ziggy100  04/03/13 11:48 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  04/03/13 04:02 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Ziggy100  04/03/13 05:38 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  04/03/13 08:09 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  04/03/13 10:31 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  04/03/13 10:36 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  04/03/13 07:50 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Ziggy100  04/03/13 08:01 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  04/03/13 11:02 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? B2K24  04/03/13 07:20 PM
. * Agreed. Those of you want 3D or better then make MAME 2 and stop all this. Dullaron  08/19/13 01:07 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? SmitdoggAdministrator  04/03/13 07:32 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  04/02/13 03:39 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Anonymous  04/02/13 06:44 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  04/02/13 08:00 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Anonymous  04/03/13 01:25 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? StilettoAdministrator  03/30/13 06:08 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Shoegazr  03/30/13 07:30 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Ziggy100  04/01/13 03:27 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  04/01/13 08:02 PM
. * Rage Racer was bad ass! DiodeDude  02/17/13 04:25 PM
. * Re: Rage Racer was bad ass! Outrun2006  03/29/13 09:46 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? RetroRepair  02/16/13 07:53 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Ziggy100  02/16/13 09:06 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Ziggy100  02/16/13 12:19 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Master O  02/16/13 04:39 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Dullaron  08/19/13 01:15 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  02/15/13 04:26 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Spekkio  04/13/13 12:53 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  04/13/13 10:12 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Spekkio  05/15/13 10:21 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  08/18/13 03:45 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  08/19/13 05:48 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  08/19/13 06:12 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Waremonger  02/16/13 06:37 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? TafoidAdministrator  02/15/13 02:27 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Ziggy100  02/15/13 04:25 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Reznor007  02/15/13 06:54 AM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Outrun2006  02/15/13 02:17 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  02/15/13 04:27 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Reznor007  02/15/13 04:27 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? R. Belmont  05/15/13 04:48 PM
. * Re: Haswell = A new dawn for mame? Reznor007  05/15/13 05:45 PM

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