Don't include yourself Bob, you fucking CLOWN. Of all people you have NO credentials in such matters.
You're insanity is LEGEND in the Daphne community, how you tried and went to crazy extremes to prove that you owned an Esh disc, so they would share a capture with you and then sadly and embarrassingly admitting it was all a hoax after they proved you were a fraud.
I wish Morgan's Tribute page to you was still online!