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Tomu Breidah
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Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime
12/27/12 09:58 AM


> Well, being a citizen of a safer country, I had to read up on what the 2nd amendment
> is.
>

When you say "Safer Country" would that happen to be one of those countries where if a hoodlum should attack you - you would be arrested for trying to protect yourself? Not saying you'd use a weapon, but maybe just fighting back.

I'm not saying that to make fun, I'm serious, because that's what I've heard about some places. And I think Britain is one of them.


> Seems it is the 2nd of 10 amendments comprising a bill of rights. They were drafted
> at a time before an organised police force or army existed, when the only defence was
> your own (the wild west). Of course times have changed, and logically it is no longer
> needed. Note that it is an amendment to the constitution, so obviously not important
> enough to be included originally.
>
> The reasons then, were
> * deterring tyrannical government; (how far do you think that would get you?)


Probably 6 feet under. http://www.mercyseat.net/gun_genocide.html


> * repelling invasion; (who would invade America?)
> * suppressing insurrection; (the established armed forces can handle that)


If you think about it - there's a bit of a gray area here. Who would be doing the act of 'insurrection'? A group of people against another? Or people against a government or oppressive, ruling body? [/rhetorical question]


> * facilitating a natural right of self-defense; (no longer relevant - call the
> police)


If a person which has a licensed, open or concealed gun is at or near the scene of a crime - they can act within seconds as opposed to the police who could take minutes... let's say, on average, 10 minutes to get to the scene of a crime. How many people can a gun toting maniac take out in that 10 minutes it took the police to get there? Now explain to the families of the dead people why the 2nd Amendment isn't relevant.

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Edited by Tomu Breidah (12/27/12 11:34 AM)







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* Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Robbbert 12/25/12 09:29 AM
. * Hello, this topic is Political [nt] Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 08:29 PM
. * Re: Hello, this topic is Political [nt] SmitdoggAdministrator  12/27/12 09:25 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Gor  12/27/12 08:01 PM
. * please close Robbbert  12/27/12 10:58 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Pi  12/27/12 08:25 PM
. * One of these days. The killer will be killed by 20 to 100 people in the same room. Dullaron  12/27/12 02:11 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/26/12 11:38 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 04:42 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 05:41 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 09:02 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Robbbert  12/27/12 05:29 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 05:47 AM
. * re Robbbert  12/27/12 08:45 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/27/12 10:49 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 09:58 AM
. * Re: Robbbert  12/27/12 12:47 PM
. * Chuck Woolery on Assualt Weapons Tomu Breidah  12/29/12 05:44 PM
. * Sandy Hook busted...? Tomu Breidah  01/07/13 05:04 PM
. * Re: Sandy Hook busted...? StilettoAdministrator  01/07/13 05:52 PM
. * Re: Sandy Hook busted...? StilettoAdministrator  01/08/13 02:43 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/25/12 10:42 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime DMala  12/26/12 07:54 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/26/12 02:39 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/26/12 04:52 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/26/12 02:38 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 03:41 AM
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