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Vas Crabb
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Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime
12/27/12 03:41 AM


> > Oh come on. When has the NRA ever said anything other than "more guns would have
> > prevented this"? That's their standard line.
>
> When? Always. Enforce the laws that exist, rather than creating these situations so
> you can take away more guns.

Their responses to the school shooting and the cinema shooting were that more guns would've prevented it. If you can't see that you're in denial

> Securing firearms with a safe that actually works for the purpose, rather than, say,
> a glass-fronted wooden case with a lock, would be an obvious move for anyone who had
> had training that isn't required or even offered by most states. The NRA offers that
> training, by the way.

A gun safe isn't very effective against a determined thief. Most safes aren't very effective against simple power tools. Even safes that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars won't keep someone out for very long - it's just to give you time to notice and get security in to apprehend them.

> Nor is that what he said. His line was attempting to blame the victims, where blame
> is properly laid at the feet of the system that makes every effort to turn more
> people into potential victims with every passing day. Besides, the concept of
> bringing a gun into a fire is ludicrous, and such a statement is akin to blaming the
> six-year-olds shot in a structure where the government has banned possession of
> firearms.

Columbine had armed security guards on premises, but that didn't help. The kids stole grandpa's guns by cutting his gun safe open with power tools.

The more guns there are in the community, the more chance there is that violent people will get their hands on them. If you don't want to restrict the number of guns, you need to accept that regular shootings are the price you have to pay for your "liberty". Eighty people are shot to death every day in the US. That's what you'll have to live with.







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* Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Robbbert 12/25/12 09:29 AM
. * Hello, this topic is Political [nt] Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 08:29 PM
. * Re: Hello, this topic is Political [nt] SmitdoggAdministrator  12/27/12 09:25 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Gor  12/27/12 08:01 PM
. * please close Robbbert  12/27/12 10:58 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Pi  12/27/12 08:25 PM
. * One of these days. The killer will be killed by 20 to 100 people in the same room. Dullaron  12/27/12 02:11 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/26/12 11:38 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 04:42 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 05:41 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 09:02 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Robbbert  12/27/12 05:29 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 05:47 AM
. * re Robbbert  12/27/12 08:45 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/27/12 10:49 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 09:58 AM
. * Re: Robbbert  12/27/12 12:47 PM
. * Chuck Woolery on Assualt Weapons Tomu Breidah  12/29/12 05:44 PM
. * Sandy Hook busted...? Tomu Breidah  01/07/13 05:04 PM
. * Re: Sandy Hook busted...? StilettoAdministrator  01/07/13 05:52 PM
. * Re: Sandy Hook busted...? StilettoAdministrator  01/08/13 02:43 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/25/12 10:42 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime DMala  12/26/12 07:54 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/26/12 02:39 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/26/12 04:52 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/26/12 02:38 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 03:41 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime lharms  12/27/12 12:17 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Robbbert  12/25/12 12:18 PM

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