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Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime
12/26/12 02:38 PM


> > > I await the usual madman response from the NRA. I suppose that firemen should all
> > > carry guns while trying to put out fires, and do their duties from within a tank.
> >
> > The NRA has NEVER said anything remotely like that. Any statement they might make
> > would reference whatever the source of the weapon was. Unsecured weapons in a home,
> > lax enforcement of laws, etc.
>
> Oh come on. When has the NRA ever said anything other than "more guns would have
> prevented this"? That's their standard line.

When? Always. Enforce the laws that exist, rather than creating these situations so you can take away more guns.

Where did the gun(s) come from? He didn't buy it legally. It was stolen from a place that was not sufficiently secure, or sold by someone who either didn't run proper checks or ran those checks through a government agent/agency that didn't actually perform them the way they are required to, or acquired by some other means that shouldn't have existed.

Securing firearms with a safe that actually works for the purpose, rather than, say, a glass-fronted wooden case with a lock, would be an obvious move for anyone who had had training that isn't required or even offered by most states. The NRA offers that training, by the way.

New York apparently has laws that allow violent murderers to get out of prison, where "life" is only 17 years. That's the first place they failed, and they haven't gotten any other information to show what else went wrong.

Nor is that what he said. His line was attempting to blame the victims, where blame is properly laid at the feet of the system that makes every effort to turn more people into potential victims with every passing day. Besides, the concept of bringing a gun into a fire is ludicrous, and such a statement is akin to blaming the six-year-olds shot in a structure where the government has banned possession of firearms.







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* Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Robbbert 12/25/12 09:29 AM
. * Hello, this topic is Political [nt] Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 08:29 PM
. * Re: Hello, this topic is Political [nt] SmitdoggAdministrator  12/27/12 09:25 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Gor  12/27/12 08:01 PM
. * please close Robbbert  12/27/12 10:58 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Pi  12/27/12 08:25 PM
. * One of these days. The killer will be killed by 20 to 100 people in the same room. Dullaron  12/27/12 02:11 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/26/12 11:38 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 04:42 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 05:41 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 09:02 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Robbbert  12/27/12 05:29 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 05:47 AM
. * re Robbbert  12/27/12 08:45 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/27/12 10:49 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Tomu Breidah  12/27/12 09:58 AM
. * Re: Robbbert  12/27/12 12:47 PM
. * Chuck Woolery on Assualt Weapons Tomu Breidah  12/29/12 05:44 PM
. * Sandy Hook busted...? Tomu Breidah  01/07/13 05:04 PM
. * Re: Sandy Hook busted...? StilettoAdministrator  01/07/13 05:52 PM
. * Re: Sandy Hook busted...? StilettoAdministrator  01/08/13 02:43 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/25/12 10:42 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime DMala  12/26/12 07:54 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/26/12 02:39 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/26/12 04:52 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime TriggerFin  12/26/12 02:38 PM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Vas Crabb  12/27/12 03:41 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime lharms  12/27/12 12:17 AM
. * Re: Firemen shot dead in another gun crime Robbbert  12/25/12 12:18 PM

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