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>Assuming the fraud actually happened, how do you know that they didn't all vote for Norm Coleman?

Why does it matter who benefitted?

Your question misses the real point that voter fraud is taking place... not which party benefits the most.

So... if it first matters who benefits from that fraud... then your question is a self-conscious one, which is to say, does this fraud benefit my interests or not, and after I determine rather or not it benefits my interests,THEN I'll decide how I feel about it.

But your question highlights this reality... that one party is working hard to close opportunities for voter fraud, and the other party is working hard to keep those opportunities open.

One party wants voter IDs, the other has filed lawsuits to stop it.

One party wants to purge dead people from the voter rolls, the other has filed lawsuits to stop it.

One party wants to purge non-citezens from the rolls, the other party has filed lawsuits to stop it.

So... based on their actions, one can assume that one party is hedging it's bets that it benefits from voter fraud. I'll let you guess which party that is... but we all already know... and it wasn't Norm Coleman's party. That should answer your question... we all seem to know how dead people and felons vote without having to do any studies to find out.

But why do we already know? Why is it an implied understanding which party is aligned with corruption, fraud, and organized crime? So why don't we care? Is it because it benefits our own interests at the expense of fair and free elections? Would you support a military coup if your chosen leader were put in place? How is that different?

Because if it didn't matter WHO benefitted... then both parties would be working together to stop voter fraud... but their not.

And that forces social liberals like me to have to side with zealous crackpots on the right because they are the only party that fights for a lawful constitutional government... and in my opinion, it doesn't matter what social justices get pushed through in the short term, if you forgo your liberties to achieve them, then you're only one corrupt illegitimate administration away from having them all taken away again.