MAMEWorld Forums - Welcome to the War Room - Re: For the record 9/11 conspiracy theorist

Not all fires and explosions are created equal.

Most modern construction is considered 'balloon' construction. The exterior of the building accounts for a good portion of the structural integrity of a building. Kick out one portion of the structure and the rest will fold like an accordion. For example you point out madrid. I point out Oklahoma. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklahoma_City_bombing That building didnt look like that at first. It took about a day before it all collapsed on itself. *Every* demolition job is different. I have seen ones where they kick the struts out and the building half falls on itself and doesnt implode at all (creating a huge dangerous block of concrete and steel). I have seen ones where they carefully planed where it was supposed to fall and it went the other way. The same guys who ran those planes into the towers tried the same thing as in Oklahoma inside the towers. That failed you think they would just go 'oh well that didnt work' and not try again?

This was not the first attack on those buildings.

Now for structural failing take for example the simple garage that italie built. If I were to knock out 1 corner with say a car. The thing probably would collapse on itself pretty quickly. It may even wobble for a few hours. You may say 'but the other 3 corners are holding it up'. Which would be true for a while. The walls would probably hold it up for awhile (until they cracked under load). But depending on how thick of members he put into those other 3 corners would depend on how long it lasted and the way it would collapse. Too small and it would fall quickly looking like all 3 corners went at once.

My point? A building is a system of geometry holding up many metric tons of steel, concrete and glass. You would be amazed at the amount of slack (as in half ass job) that some people out there put into their jobs in building these things (and remember these were built in the 70s under mob rule in a city known for bribery and money laundering scandals). You can get away with that as long as NOTHING goes wrong. The second something goes wrong the system will fail in a catastrophic way. You would be scared to go into many buildings if you knew how bad it is. Also italie I am not saying what you did was bad, it was actually a rare decent job. I use it as an example of how even a good job can fail when support is removed.

Here are the two theories:
1) a bunch of convoluted logic to make it sound like an inside job. Also many times that logic fails under any real scrutiny. It usually takes all the logic to work perfectly for these theories to work. Most of it does not jibe with real world demolition and construction techniques.
2) a bunch of pissed off Muslims did it. They admitted they did it. They have the money trail showing they did it. They have the people who taught them to fly saying it was them. They have points of origin on all the people who were involved. This was their at least second attempt. The man who started it all (and admitted he started it) is dead.

This is going to sound shocking. But there are people out there who hate every atom of your being just because of where you were born or where you live.