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Re: Combined build
05/08/12 10:15 AM


> how many question are you still going to ask?

Is there a set limit? I think you are giving out useful info.

> > Why this cannot be substituted by "sub-builds" (with many or most modules that are
> > untouched in the release, disabled) and only do the final build once?
> > (and I believe that is what you guys do anyway...?)
>
> because if you don't build the whole tree, you could break some dependence (e.g. of a
> different driver from the one you're working on, which shares some components) and
> doing so you could stop some other devs' work. and checking over and over which
> components are interconnected takes sometimes as much time as compiling the complete
> tree from scratch.

Clear. Also means that there is need to be some more restructuring to make it more oo and modular? (which AFAIK MAME takes pride that IS like that already)

> also, most of the complains were about building time of the maintainer before a
> release: you do realize that before every release the maintainer compiles baseline,
> debug, SDL and (when applicable) MSVC builds to be sure that everything compiles fine
> and only after that packaging a release? add the times you have to fix a compile and
> start from scratch, and maybe you will start to understand the magnitude of time we
> are talking about

Also clear, still I am curious to read real numbers on a typical machine.

> > If someone is responsible for the builds (or even more than one person), how hard
> is
> > it to raise a fund to pay for the extra hardware needed?
>
> because this is not a job. taking care of releases should not be an obligation due to
> people having paid for that, or it would get very close to obligations towards paying
> clients at work

Of course this is not a job. I see what you are saying. Funding some better hardware I don't think crosses the line though in obligating someone (that already IS doing THIS part).

As a general comment personally I think this thread is becoming a great read on the whole subject of merging. Maybe something to revisit sooner or later. (hopefully sooner)


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* Combined build Robbbert 05/01/12 01:11 AM
. * Re: Combined build Mbit  05/08/12 10:47 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/08/12 11:57 PM
. * Re: Combined build Bryan Ischo  05/09/12 12:25 AM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/09/12 02:47 AM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/09/12 12:56 AM
. * Re: Combined build Bryan Ischo  05/09/12 04:05 AM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/09/12 09:09 AM
. * Re: Combined build jumpmaniac81  05/07/12 11:24 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 11:37 PM
. * Re: Combined build jumpmaniac81  05/09/12 04:30 AM
. * Re: Combined build CTOJAH  05/07/12 05:07 PM
. * Re: Combined build mesk  05/07/12 07:20 PM
. * Re: Combined build CTOJAH  05/07/12 07:25 PM
. * Re: Combined build mesk  05/08/12 10:11 PM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/07/12 05:29 PM
. * Re: Combined build CTOJAH  05/07/12 05:49 PM
. * Re: Combined build Naoki  05/08/12 09:45 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/08/12 11:28 PM
. * Re: Combined build Ramirez  05/08/12 11:49 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/09/12 12:11 AM
. * Re: Combined build Naoki  05/09/12 11:21 AM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/09/12 02:21 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/09/12 03:01 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 07:27 PM
. * Re: Combined build DrArcade  05/07/12 06:10 PM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/07/12 05:55 PM
. * Re: Combined build CTOJAH  05/07/12 06:00 PM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 06:09 PM
. * Re: Combined build greybeard  05/07/12 06:11 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 12:42 PM
. * Re: Combined build RobbbertModerator  05/07/12 02:17 PM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/07/12 01:31 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 01:49 PM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/07/12 02:20 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 02:53 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 02:39 PM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/07/12 03:12 PM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 04:32 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 04:35 PM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 04:42 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 04:58 PM
. * Re: Combined build mesk  05/07/12 05:06 PM
. * Re: Combined build greybeard  05/07/12 07:31 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 07:37 PM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/07/12 07:46 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 08:00 PM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 10:12 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 10:26 PM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/08/12 08:09 AM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/08/12 10:15 AM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/08/12 09:25 AM
. * Re: Combined build mogli  05/08/12 10:19 PM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/07/12 08:09 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 10:19 PM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/08/12 03:25 AM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/08/12 10:09 AM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 03:16 PM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/07/12 04:01 PM
. * Re: Combined build Sune  05/04/12 07:31 AM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/04/12 05:03 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 03:26 PM
. * Re: Combined build mesk  05/07/12 03:52 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 05:08 PM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 06:07 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 07:47 PM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 10:06 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 11:19 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/08/12 12:07 AM
. * Re: Combined build B2K24  05/08/12 07:28 AM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/08/12 12:55 AM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/08/12 10:07 AM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/08/12 11:16 AM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/08/12 11:34 AM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/08/12 01:59 PM
. * Re: Combined build BIOS-D  05/08/12 04:12 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/08/12 05:26 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/08/12 07:00 PM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/09/12 09:47 AM
. * Re: Combined build Mbit  05/09/12 12:14 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/09/12 10:19 AM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/09/12 12:15 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/09/12 02:49 PM
. * Re: Combined build BIOS-D  05/08/12 07:00 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/08/12 09:06 PM
. * Re: Combined build redk9258  05/09/12 12:18 AM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/09/12 02:59 AM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/07/12 07:13 PM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/07/12 05:12 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 05:37 PM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/09/12 09:51 AM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/09/12 01:09 PM
. * Re: Combined build RobbbertModerator  05/09/12 01:26 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/09/12 01:47 PM
. * Re: Combined build RobbbertModerator  05/09/12 03:06 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/09/12 04:19 PM
. * Re: Combined build TafoidAdministrator  05/09/12 07:08 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/09/12 02:54 PM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/07/12 05:46 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 07:39 PM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/07/12 07:44 PM
. * Re: Combined build CptGuapo  05/07/12 04:41 PM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 04:42 PM
. * Re: Combined build LazyCat  05/07/12 05:23 PM
. * Re: Ninja Assassin MAME devs Firehawke  05/07/12 05:26 PM
. * Re: Combined build Sune  05/07/12 04:27 AM
. * Re: Combined build etabeta  05/07/12 11:28 AM
. * Never mind Sune  05/08/12 11:41 PM
. * Re: Never mind etabeta  05/09/12 09:15 AM
. * Re: Combined build Shoegazr  05/05/12 12:32 AM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 04:23 PM
. * Re: Combined build Ramirez  05/07/12 09:15 PM
. * Re: Combined build R. Belmont  05/07/12 10:09 PM
. * Re: Combined build Ramirez  05/07/12 10:45 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 04:33 PM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 12:42 AM
. * Re: Combined build Sune  05/07/12 04:21 AM
. * Re: Combined build NLS  05/07/12 11:14 AM
. * Re: Combined build AeroCityMayor  05/05/12 12:14 AM
. * Re: Combined build (yes, and thanks). Shoegazr  05/04/12 06:38 AM
. * Re: Combined build CptGuapo  05/04/12 05:22 AM
. * Re: Combined build OldSchoolGamer  05/04/12 04:49 AM
. * Re: Combined build Naoki  05/02/12 12:15 AM
. * Re: Combined build Cable  05/01/12 11:53 PM
. * Re: Combined build Firehawke  05/01/12 07:20 PM
. * Re: Combined build kevenz  05/01/12 03:27 AM
. * Re: Combined build B2K24  05/01/12 05:45 AM
. * Re: Combined build SmitdoggAdministrator  05/01/12 08:02 PM
. * Re: Combined build redk9258  05/01/12 01:36 AM
. * Re: Combined build RobbbertModerator  05/01/12 01:48 AM
. * Re: Combined build CiroConsentino  05/01/12 01:26 AM
. * Re: Combined build RobbbertModerator  05/01/12 01:45 AM
. * Re: Combined build joey35car  05/01/12 01:35 AM

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