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Re: Hey Liberals
06/18/11 09:04 PM


>More practically, what are we supposed to do? Obama goes to Congress and gets approval to declare war (if such a thing were possible), we declare war on Libya, and now we're bogged down on a third front in the Middle East? No sane person wants that.

Right.

I think you meant to disagree with me, but we actually agree! Bombing a foreign country to destroy its leadership is war. Your reply assumes congress approves of the war. You don't want it. I don't want it. By making the Executive branch ask the Legislative branch for permission, the Legislative branch can say no (and would, in this case). Checks and balances. End of conflict.

See how by following the constitution our mainstream values prevail.

P.S. edit

>OK, first of all, the Obama administration hardly invented the idea of an undeclared armed conflict. That doesn't make it right, but it's hardly a new thing. Perhaps you've heard of places called "Korea" and "Vietnam"?

You are right about Korea and Vietnam, those presidents (Truman and Nixon) acted without congressional authority, and thus the War Powers Act of 1973 was adopted to prevent future presidents from engaging in "conflicts" without declaring them as wars.


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The War Powers Act of 1973 (50 U.S.C. 1541-1548)[1] is a federal law intended to check the power of the President in committing the United States to an armed conflict without the consent of Congress. The resolution was adopted in the form of a United States Congress joint resolution; this provides that the President can send U.S. armed forces into action abroad only by authorization of Congress or in case of "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."




So... clearly Obama is in violation of the War Powers Act. What now? We respond in accordance with our party agendas, or according to the rule of law?

This isn't a campaign issue, it's a cross-roads for America. How American's respond to a Presidential violation of Congressional Law sets precedence for future presidents to start unauthorized conflicts; future Koreas, future Vietnams.





Edited by Gatinho (06/18/11 09:34 PM)






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