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Religious and political chat should be moved to the Test board (nt)
03/31/11 10:04 AM


> SOrry it took me so long to get back to you. I only have limited
> access to the internet.
>
> anyway here is the study....
>
> http://www.forteantimes.com/strangedays/medicalbag/4897/prayer_power.html
>
> there are others....
>
>
> also now to answer the questions you asked me....
>
> >>Why didn't prayer stop the extermination of millions of Jewish people? I guarantee
> you they were all praying for God to intervene.
>
> I assume your talking about WWII, that is explained in the bible. God explains
> that due to their disbelief in Christ that they would suffer for it. That by
> denying him (God) that basically there would be a time he would deny them.
>
> >>Why hasn't prayer ended poverty, or starvation, or the exploitation and slavery of
> >>children across the world?
>
> >>Does God only help in hospitals, and kids who didn't study for their math test?
>
> This again is answered in the Bible, The first book Genesis. God gave domionin of
> the
> earth to man. The earth belongs to man to put what ever powers he see's fit in charge
> so to speak, be it greed, power, envy, war, etc. If you rent a home from me I have no
>
> right nor power to come into that home and tell you how to live your life. I may see
> the choices your making are hurting or harming you and I may plead with you but it's
> your choice, your right to decide the path of your own life. God makes it clear he
> will not visit were he is not wanted. Christ told the entire flock "if you go into a
> man's house in my name and he will not listen then leave and to even wipe the dust of
> that house hold of your shoes"
>
> Listen I can't explain why God does one thing and not another, but I do know that
> there are many and Im sure you can say yes to this too, that have been in a situation
> and reached out and prayed and made promises then when that prayer was answered
> suddenly
> sometimes days even just hours later those people make excuses why it happened, seen
> it happen many many times. Be honest if you were God and someone prays to you asking
> for
> help and you reach out and answer that prayer only to have them make excuses or even
> deny your help would you be so willing to step in and help again? heck we can see
> that
> every day in the way people treat people. Friends asking for help after not seeing
> them
> for months or even yrs and then after helping mysteriously the dissappear again....
>
> Does prayer work? yes it does, I have 2 miracles in healing in my life, 1 my ex
> father
> in law, blew he heart out and od'd on meth. flat lined 4 times to hospital, once on
> the
> operating table and again on his way to his room. Life support system and no brain
> activity
> doctors said he was dead, my ex wife and I went to see him, she sat and talked to him
> for
> 20 minutes and nothing. she prayed for him before we left and I watched his heartbeat
> go
> up 4 beats a minute and breathing up 3, we walked out and I told her not to give up.
> doctors met us and asked to turn off machines we said no. Family got mad. we did this
> for two weeks, and each time she prayed his vitals went up. anyway after two weeks we
> told the family and doc's what was happening, they laughed, family went behind our
> backs
> and got an injuction to have my exwife removed as his guardian and the machines
> turned off.
>
> this was to happen on thursday morning at 8 am, at 6 am that moring he woke up with
> no
> side effects, no problems, and no compications, funny thing is no one said a word to
> us
> about prayers, about miracles etc. only "huh he is lucky".
>
> 2 one was my own son, by age 3 he had spent as much time in the hospital as out, his
>
> lungs were failing and he would have breathing fits. after 3 yrs, numerous drugs,
> treatments, shots, etc. I had enough, I took him home with the doctors threatning to
> have
> me charged with child endangerment and abuse. Once home I laid him in the floor and
> me
> and my ex prayed over him for over 30 minutes. He has never had another breathing
> problem
> since that night, not even a cold and he is 10 now. Doctors said he would never be
> able
> to run and play, play any sport etc his entire life... He now plays in a tackle
> football
> league consisting of 7 different towns and has since 2nd grade, he is well known for
> his abilities and is well known in the region as "dynamite" smallest kid in his class
> but one of the toughest to hit the feild in his league. 194 yrds rushing in just one
> game,
> wining all conference player last yr, not to bad for a kid doctors had given up on...
>
> Why were these prayers answered ? because I beleived and I EXPECTED. and I knew
> there
> was no where else for me to go to help either but God...


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I can't get it right / Get it right / Since I met you...







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Subject Posted by Posted on
* For Hizzout Renegade 03/30/11 07:52 PM
. * Religious and political chat should be moved to the Test board (nt) Pi  03/31/11 10:04 AM
. * Thar kind of censorship is an offence to my God-given basic human rights! -nt- Fever  03/31/11 09:25 PM
. * Re: For Hizzout Hizzout  03/30/11 08:20 PM
. * Re: For Hizzout Renegade  03/31/11 07:37 PM
. * Re: For Hizzout Tomu Breidah  03/31/11 06:38 AM
. * Re: For Hizzout Renegade  03/31/11 07:53 PM
. * Re: For Hizzout BIOS-D  03/31/11 07:42 AM
. * Re: For Hizzout Hizzout  03/31/11 06:47 AM
. * Re: For Hizzout Tomu Breidah  03/31/11 08:36 AM

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