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> So you're relying on God's will....I guess is what I'll take from that.
>
> So what are your thoughts related to the video I posted that explains if God already
> knows what you're going to decide, because he's omniscient, do you really have free
> will? If you deny God at some point in your life then God already knew, as with
> Judas.

To say God knows what will happen or what is to be (by his omniscience)... If God is eternal then this life for US -from God's perspective- it would be like a video that is being played out. He knows the ending from the beginning. So let's look at all things from an eternal point of view (like a Big Picture). There is no before, after, or later. Things just are.

I can't see how God, being omniscient, would negate my ability to have free will.

Is the purpose of that question to say that whatever happens in my life isn't by my will, but of God's will? Yet God knows the ending from the beginning. Yet God GIVES us the free will to make decisions.

Is omniscience knowing what absolutely is, or is it knowing all that is possible?

I'd have to say that WE, being in this state of reality - where we are subject to the constraints of time and distance... We presently have choices to make (we're able to exercise free will). Outside of those constraints, where we presume God to be, He can see everything at every moment as it is to Him.

For God it is finished. For us, all things still have yet to happen (or for however long time will last). God knowing if I'll conscientiously do something right or wrong doesn't mean I ~~have no control over it~~ don't have the ability to do whichever. It's still my decision.... at least, from my perspective.

I have to ask, what is 'WILL'? Given the question I'd say (that for us) it is the ability to make a decision... But we don't have control over all things in this life. I might want, or Will that I could get a pay raise at work without asking for it. But I also have the Will (the ability) to ask. Still doesn't mean I'll get it. I would not will (or want) to get in a car accident. That still doesn't mean it won't happen (it's not impossible).

"Do I have Free Will?"... Anyone can say they do. Your Will is up to and possessed by you (individually) for as far as you have power/control over something.

I'm starting to see that having a Free Will is not really good for anything (in this world)... Other than Faith. I have to place those things in God's hands, and ask that His Will be done.

Anyway. The matter is; What God already knows means that that is the way we will act, or how we'll choose anyway, and that we've never had a decision in the first place.. It was only inevitable that we chose the way we did.

So if I were to choose to turn my back on God... That would be my free will. But does anyone think that that would be the Will of God?

I say No, of course it wouldn't be. So, what was it that God's omniscience had to do with our Free Will again?

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