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For Hizzout
03/30/11 07:52 PM



SOrry it took me so long to get back to you. I only have limited
access to the internet.

anyway here is the study....

http://www.forteantimes.com/strangedays/medicalbag/4897/prayer_power.html

there are others....


also now to answer the questions you asked me....

>>Why didn't prayer stop the extermination of millions of Jewish people? I guarantee you they were all praying for God to intervene.

I assume your talking about WWII, that is explained in the bible. God explains
that due to their disbelief in Christ that they would suffer for it. That by
denying him (God) that basically there would be a time he would deny them.

>>Why hasn't prayer ended poverty, or starvation, or the exploitation and slavery of >>children across the world?

>>Does God only help in hospitals, and kids who didn't study for their math test?

This again is answered in the Bible, The first book Genesis. God gave domionin of the
earth to man. The earth belongs to man to put what ever powers he see's fit in charge
so to speak, be it greed, power, envy, war, etc. If you rent a home from me I have no
right nor power to come into that home and tell you how to live your life. I may see
the choices your making are hurting or harming you and I may plead with you but it's
your choice, your right to decide the path of your own life. God makes it clear he
will not visit were he is not wanted. Christ told the entire flock "if you go into a
man's house in my name and he will not listen then leave and to even wipe the dust of that house hold of your shoes"

Listen I can't explain why God does one thing and not another, but I do know that
there are many and Im sure you can say yes to this too, that have been in a situation
and reached out and prayed and made promises then when that prayer was answered suddenly
sometimes days even just hours later those people make excuses why it happened, seen
it happen many many times. Be honest if you were God and someone prays to you asking for
help and you reach out and answer that prayer only to have them make excuses or even
deny your help would you be so willing to step in and help again? heck we can see that
every day in the way people treat people. Friends asking for help after not seeing them
for months or even yrs and then after helping mysteriously the dissappear again....

Does prayer work? yes it does, I have 2 miracles in healing in my life, 1 my ex father
in law, blew he heart out and od'd on meth. flat lined 4 times to hospital, once on the
operating table and again on his way to his room. Life support system and no brain activity
doctors said he was dead, my ex wife and I went to see him, she sat and talked to him for
20 minutes and nothing. she prayed for him before we left and I watched his heartbeat go
up 4 beats a minute and breathing up 3, we walked out and I told her not to give up.
doctors met us and asked to turn off machines we said no. Family got mad. we did this
for two weeks, and each time she prayed his vitals went up. anyway after two weeks we
told the family and doc's what was happening, they laughed, family went behind our backs
and got an injuction to have my exwife removed as his guardian and the machines turned off.

this was to happen on thursday morning at 8 am, at 6 am that moring he woke up with no
side effects, no problems, and no compications, funny thing is no one said a word to us
about prayers, about miracles etc. only "huh he is lucky".

2 one was my own son, by age 3 he had spent as much time in the hospital as out, his
lungs were failing and he would have breathing fits. after 3 yrs, numerous drugs,
treatments, shots, etc. I had enough, I took him home with the doctors threatning to have
me charged with child endangerment and abuse. Once home I laid him in the floor and me
and my ex prayed over him for over 30 minutes. He has never had another breathing problem
since that night, not even a cold and he is 10 now. Doctors said he would never be able
to run and play, play any sport etc his entire life... He now plays in a tackle football
league consisting of 7 different towns and has since 2nd grade, he is well known for
his abilities and is well known in the region as "dynamite" smallest kid in his class
but one of the toughest to hit the feild in his league. 194 yrds rushing in just one game,
wining all conference player last yr, not to bad for a kid doctors had given up on...

Why were these prayers answered ? because I beleived and I EXPECTED. and I knew there
was no where else for me to go to help either but God...


Only here to annoy...







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* For Hizzout Renegade 03/30/11 07:52 PM
. * Religious and political chat should be moved to the Test board (nt) Pi  03/31/11 10:04 AM
. * Thar kind of censorship is an offence to my God-given basic human rights! -nt- Fever  03/31/11 09:25 PM
. * Re: For Hizzout Hizzout  03/30/11 08:20 PM
. * Re: For Hizzout Renegade  03/31/11 07:37 PM
. * Re: For Hizzout Tomu Breidah  03/31/11 06:38 AM
. * Re: For Hizzout Renegade  03/31/11 07:53 PM
. * Re: For Hizzout BIOS-D  03/31/11 07:42 AM
. * Re: For Hizzout Hizzout  03/31/11 06:47 AM
. * Re: For Hizzout Tomu Breidah  03/31/11 08:36 AM

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