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Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage...
03/05/11 09:05 PM


Speaking of lawsuits. How's this for fucked up...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitter_Sweet_Symphony

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Although the song's lyrics were written by Verve vocalist Richard Ashcroft, it has been credited to Keith Richards and Mick Jagger after charges by the original copyright owners that the song was plagiarized from the Andrew Oldham Orchestra recording of The Rolling Stones' 1965 song "The Last Time."

Originally, The Verve had negotiated a licence to use a sample from the Oldham recording, but it was successfully argued that the Verve had used "too much" of the sample. Despite having original lyrics, the music of "Bitter Sweet Symphony" is partially based on the Oldham track, which led to a lawsuit with ABKCO Records, Allen Klein's company that owns the rights to the Rolling Stones material of the 1960s. The matter was eventually settled, with copyright of the song reverting to ABKCO and songwriting credits to Jagger and Richards.

"We were told it was going to be a 50/50 split, and then they saw how well the record was doing," says band member Simon Jones. "They rung up and said, 'We want 100 percent or take it out of the shops, you don't have much choice.'"

After losing the composer credits to the song, Richard Ashcroft commented, "This is the best song Jagger and Richards have written in 20 years", noting it was their biggest hit since "Brown Sugar".

The song was later used without the permission of the band by Nike in a shoe commercial. As a result, it was on the Illegal Art CD from the magazine Stay Free!. The song was also used in a Vauxhall Motors advertisement and several of Opel, prompting Ashcroft to declare onstage at their homecoming performance at Haigh Hall, Wigan, in May 1998, "Don't buy Vauxhall cars, they're shit." However, the band were able to stop further use of the song by employing the European legal concept of moral rights.

On Ashcroft's return to touring, the song traditionally ended the set list. Ashcroft also reworked the single for "VH2 Live" for the music channel VH1, stripping the song of its strings. Ashcroft is quoted as saying during the show: "Despite all the legal angles and the bullshit, strip down to the chords and the lyrics and the melody and you realise there is such a good song there."

He also dedicated the song to Mick Jagger and Keith Richards during a gig at the Sage Gateshead in Gateshead. After several audience members booed, Ashcroft exclaimed, "Don't boo, man. As long as I can play this song I'm happy to pay a few of those guys' bills."

In a Cash For Questions interview with Q magazine published in January 1999, Keith Richards was asked (by John Johnson of Enfield) if he thought it was harsh taking all The Verve's royalties from "Bitter Sweet Symphony," to which he replied, "I'm out of whack here, this is serious lawyer shit. If The Verve can write a better song, they can keep the money."











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* Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... italieAdministrator 03/05/11 01:51 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... redk9258  03/06/11 06:43 PM
. * I like Pat Boone. That stuff is cute...but gets a little trite.... mogli  03/07/11 10:45 PM
. * Re: I like Pat Boone. That stuff is cute...but gets a little trite.... Mojo2000  03/08/11 12:19 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... Fever  03/06/11 06:22 PM
. * Major Tom [nt] Tomu Breidah  03/06/11 06:09 PM
. * Peter Schilling? igamabob  03/07/11 08:01 PM
. * Re: Peter Schilling? Tomu Breidah  03/07/11 10:38 PM
. * Re: Peter Schilling? dfrance  03/08/11 01:25 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... krick  03/06/11 06:57 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... Hébus  03/07/11 10:18 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... TriggerFin  03/06/11 06:19 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... krick  03/06/11 12:58 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... Fever  03/06/11 01:13 AM
. * Trouble No More/Someday Baby/Worried Life Blues snake78  03/05/11 11:59 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... italieAdministrator  03/05/11 10:50 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... Fever  03/06/11 12:02 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... PokeMAME  03/06/11 12:25 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... italieAdministrator  03/06/11 12:57 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... PokeMAME  03/06/11 08:25 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... redk9258  03/06/11 06:39 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... italieAdministrator  03/06/11 02:19 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... DMala  03/05/11 10:03 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... snake78  03/05/11 11:40 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... DMala  03/06/11 07:32 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... snake78  03/06/11 05:59 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... italieAdministrator  03/05/11 10:16 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... Hébus  03/05/11 09:24 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... krick  03/05/11 09:05 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... italieAdministrator  03/05/11 10:13 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... krick  03/05/11 08:51 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... snake78  03/05/11 11:35 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... krick  03/05/11 08:43 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... Fever  03/05/11 09:52 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... krick  03/05/11 08:35 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... krick  03/05/11 08:17 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... TriggerFin  03/06/11 02:17 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... Fever  03/05/11 07:37 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... R. Belmont  03/05/11 08:54 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... StilettoAdministrator  03/05/11 07:53 PM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... italieAdministrator  03/05/11 03:25 PM
. * For Your Love 60's to 90's 9ofzeven  03/05/11 01:16 PM
. * Rockin' Pneumonia and the Boogie Woogie Flu StilettoAdministrator  03/05/11 09:51 AM
. * Re: Van Morrison's "Baby Blue" StilettoAdministrator  03/05/11 09:30 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... Gyrovision  03/05/11 08:29 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... DMala  03/05/11 07:51 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... redk9258  03/05/11 09:17 AM
. * Re: Best - worst -most obscure "Song cover" lineage... DMala  03/05/11 09:10 PM

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