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Re: unMAMEd updated for 2010
12/29/10 10:51 PM
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>Sometimes there's good background info why it's not emulated (or the gameplay > description), and i think that info is then lost; not everything related to a > game's 'MAME-history' is contained in MAWS... (also the scanned pictures are > of 'historic interest', but you said you keep them)
I can see why the old MAME.net wip pages were kept because that is a piece of history from the era when Gridle was handling MAME.net web site. (twisty kept many of the Dexter posts since those can never be topped for entertainment reading).
As for unMAMEd, the comments by various contributors might not be correct. I know my comment for Sega/Gremlin's (Gremlin) stand-a-round version of Blasto (alternate version of Blasto and not found yet) is correct because of the contents within Blasto manual. As for my comments with Sega's Tic Tac Quiz (also yet to be found) that's more of guessing even though I do believe it is a cpu controlled game.
Atari/Kee Games' Quiz Show was considered non-cpu until Al Kossow corrected folks (2004 or 2005 iirc) and mentioned it as using a 2650 cpu. That's the guesswork stuff not worth archiving compared to old MAME.net's WIP pages imo.
A few examples (excerpts from 2 messages sent to Bobby)
American Soccer (Universal [unreleased], 86)
Curse Kevin for ruinning Shima's plans. (kidding)
======= American Soccer is now supported (see related links).
= American Football (Universal [unreleased], 86) American Soccer (Universal [unreleased], 86)
ShimaPong scan from a Japanese magazine. Info from ShimaPong: This is the unreleased Japanese version of Indoor Soccer. The same year, Universal planned another sports game "American Football", but this game was unreleased too.
http://maws.mameworld.info/maws/romset/asoccer http://maws.mameworld.info/img/ps/titles/asoccer.png
27th June 2010: Smitdogg - Kevin Eshbach dumped American Soccer by Universal! It's a newer version of Indoor Soccer. = =====
Another example.
Cross Bingo (Subsino, 91)
Cross Bingo eventually fully emulated with correct name being Poker Carnival.
======= Cross Bingo was changed to Poker Carnival. It is working and can be removed.
- Cross Bingo (Subsino, 91)
http://maws.mameworld.info/maws/romset/crsbingo
title Poker Carnival driver status good
0.129: f205v added Cross Bingo (Subsino 1991). 0.135u4: Changed description to 'Poker Carnival' - ===
And then another variation example. The old "not working" descriptions might be too generic and a better decription can be found on MAMEdev.org 's Devwiki page. My preference is having all the previous source and whatsnew descriptions in archived condition compared to "not working" comments and opinions. Charles managed to extract data from a Gaelco's Master Boy pcb a few years ago when Guru's comments [at the time on the unMAMEd Gaelco page] were Gaelco's Master Boy "would never be playable."....well maybe that part is too bad that wasn't archived.
--- Better description update to your earlier description from MAMEdev page http://mamedev.org/devwiki/index.php/GNW
gekitsui, zerotrgt - "Need better ROZ layer implementation."
= Gekitsui Oh / Zero Target (Data East, 85)
Why it's not emulated (WHATSNEW.TXT) Various things not yet understood. = -----
Anyway, whatever can be archived on MAMEdev.org, MAWs, System 16, Alexis B.'s Arcade-History is a good start imo.
*Reminds self to need to archive any relevant posts within threads with Juergen B.'s posts of progress of TTL/non-cpu emulation earlier this year.* ;-)
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