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Haze
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Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$
04/26/18 05:42 PM


> And you begged for it when you guys made it legal to take mame and do this and now
> act surprised when people do it. You held out a cooked hotdog in front of a hungry
> dog's face and then got surprised when it ate it. 100% mamedev's fault.
>
> Even on the mamedev front page there's a link to fork a new version of mame. Why the
> fuck would you want that. I know that's unrelated, but it's not really.

Makes zero difference.

If we say they can't distribute / sell MAME they just make it an automatic downloader / updater that then downloads MAME so they're not technically selling it, just their device requires connecting to the internet once before it works. Sources for all the ones not bothering to even do that was places like China, so they're basically untouchable anyway.

Only people the old license was stopping using MAME were people who wanted to make legitimate use of it in museums etc. and felt the non-commercial clause prevented them from doing so.

Also ask the RA scene and they're quite happy to say that a GPLv3 program (RA) can host a native (x86/x64 code) core of any other incompatible license, bypassing all license protections etc. along the way (and since it's been convenient for browsers to do this and support closed plugins, it's generally accepted as OK and not challenged)

Yes, they're arguing against people bundling with RA with said non-commercial emulators, but since they're the root of the problem anyway it's basically just virtue signalling as the 'auto downloader' workaround, which they provide the code to do anyway means you have no protection anyway and people aren't even aware of your license.

Showing support for RA, or projects using that model, or other people who are just bundling existing software is IMHO toxic, and I've repeated this so many times over the years I'm sick of repeating it, yet they keep finding new reasons to repeat it. They are not your friends, they do not really have your interests at heart, they just have slick PR and are willing to stoop to any level of overselling / overhyping their products.







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Subject Posted by Posted on
* Provenance is kind of bada$$ URherenow 04/26/18 03:27 AM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ MooglyGuy  04/26/18 06:26 AM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ Haze  04/26/18 11:35 AM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ SmitdoggAdministrator  04/26/18 04:48 PM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ Haze  04/26/18 05:42 PM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ URherenow  04/27/18 05:38 AM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ Haze  04/27/18 11:45 AM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ URherenow  04/27/18 05:45 PM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ SmitdoggAdministrator  04/27/18 07:27 PM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ URherenow  05/01/18 04:54 AM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ SmitdoggAdministrator  05/01/18 05:11 AM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ jonwil  04/27/18 03:20 AM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ Haze  04/27/18 05:02 PM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ Nate  04/27/18 04:46 PM
. * Re: Provenance is kind of bada$$ lharms  04/28/18 02:57 AM
. * Launchbox is awesome DiodeDude  04/28/18 03:24 AM

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