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Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180
12/04/16 11:02 AM


> > > If I may ask here :
> > > There are no Namco System 10 and PolyGame Master 2 games included - Why ?
> > > Also want to make suggestion :
> > > Change the grey colour to NAG screen - very hard to read white text on it.
> > > Thank You.
> >
> > because it's a shitty anti-MAME project that says fuck you to actual development by
> > excluding any drivers that don't have a 'working' game.
>
> Not taking sides, but if the end user had no interest in what was excluded, then
> those things were never going to be looked at anyway. You know full well who the
> target audience is for this fork. This is nothing more than a hard-coded filter.
>
> People that want to contribute to MAME know where to get the real thing.
>
> I'm sure this will cause a shit storm, but you kinda paved the way for these
> "anti-MAME" projects. The majority of your audience is made up of people who want to
> play games. When MAME's mission changed from being about preserving Arcade
> Hardware/Software to preserve everything that can be preserved, it just became a mess
> (pun intended) from a user perspective. Most probably would've been fine with the
> addition of console systems/games but that's not what happened.
>
> Filtering needs to be more granular inside built-in UI, the whole thing has been
> setup in such a way that it's just easier to torrent everything than simply get what
> you actually want to use, neat features like HLSL aren't worth the time to configure
> because you'd need to be an engineer to understand most of the controls. I could go
> on, but no point really.
>
>
> Guess I ended up taking a side

and your argument is completely invalid. it's always been possible to filter non-working stuff AT RUNTIME.

but once negative people start stripping things away because they think one thing is more worthy than another due to their selfish nature it ends up harming the very things MAME, documentation and preservation.

in those kind of hands, you never know what damage is going to be caused, maybe tomorrow they'll decide that all adult games will be taken out too (wouldn't be the first time, some of the other 'preservation' projects outright refuse to touch them) Maybe it will be Mahjong games instead? Maybe I shouldn't plant such ideas because yeah, half the forum might cheer on the idea of it being Mahjong free too (about half of them are gambling games too FWIW)

MAME unfortunately did similar in the past by excluding gambling games, and even if that was only for what is now a relatively short part of the project life even that did some nasty damage in terms of making sure some boards were scrapped instead of preserved, and due to those initial rules, even for a long time even after that people were not realising they were wanted. Excluding them was a big mistake, however, we realised it and corrected that mistake.

I expect nothing less from those behind this tho, remaking old mistakes, undoing hard work..







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* ARCADE32/64 0.180 Robbbert 11/30/16 02:55 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 AntoPISA  12/26/16 10:07 PM
. * Show info in tab? LRa  12/25/16 03:37 PM
. * Re: Show info in tab? Traso  12/28/16 03:48 AM
. * Re: Show info in tab? LRa  12/28/16 02:17 PM
. * Re: Show info in tab? Traso  01/03/17 01:45 AM
. * Re: Show info in tab? LRa  01/04/17 02:09 PM
. * Re: Show info in tab? Traso  01/06/17 12:29 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Dullaron  12/06/16 01:07 AM
. * Ace! cricri_pingouin  12/06/16 12:59 AM
. * Re: Ace! B2K24  12/06/16 03:02 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 CTOJAH  12/02/16 09:15 PM
. * I second the loading screen color.... (nt) Traso  12/05/16 11:21 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Haze  12/03/16 10:36 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 DiodeDude  12/04/16 04:49 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Haze  12/04/16 11:02 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 DiodeDude  12/04/16 04:43 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Haze  12/04/16 05:00 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 DiodeDude  12/04/16 05:33 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Haze  12/04/16 05:37 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 DiodeDude  12/04/16 06:08 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Haze  12/04/16 06:51 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 DiodeDude  12/04/16 07:54 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Haze  12/04/16 08:36 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Mamesick  12/05/16 08:53 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 gregf  12/07/16 09:48 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Haze  12/05/16 09:03 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 B2K24  12/05/16 06:49 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 SmitdoggAdministrator  12/05/16 08:13 PM
. * I've always promoted current MAME - and I've always enjoyed MAMEUI/UIFX.... Traso  12/05/16 11:04 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 DiodeDude  12/05/16 02:02 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 uman  12/01/16 11:07 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 CTOJAH  11/30/16 03:50 PM
. * Indeed.... Traso  11/30/16 11:24 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 mcx997  11/30/16 01:10 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 DaffyDuck  11/30/16 10:24 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 grog  11/30/16 03:50 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 RobbbertModerator  11/30/16 09:12 AM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Mamesick  11/30/16 10:08 PM
. * Re: ARCADE32/64 0.180 Maria Fernanda  12/02/16 01:57 AM

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