IMHO you cant blame anyone here. Such behaviour and these derailed threads, have some kind of a long tradition in this forum. It lacks of appropriate moderation and we all have to deal now with the barbarization, that come along with that fact.
Haze, i hope you realize how this thread has even started:
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I feel like some of the default bgfx shaders leave a lot to be desired. The hq2x-4x setting make the image look washed out and blocky and the xbr shaders seem to add large amounts of blur.
I remember zenju had a pretty good implementation of xBRZ with his modified version of MAME https://sourceforge.net/projects/xbrz/files/HqMAME/ but sadly hasn't been updated since 0.170 since ddraw is no more in the newer versions.
Just read the first two sentences, that is based on feelings and vague assumptions. Is this how you would start a thread, to have better or improved shaders? Wouldnt you include some evidence, screenshots, your own mame.ini etc. ?
Now go on and read the follow up posts, it wont get better. Dont know what about Ziggy100 is talking, but it seems in no way xBRZ related, as he is into some HLSL settings.
After this, comes a third post:
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Implementation of the xbr shaders family is still in an early stage in Mame. For the most part they give an ugly picture or just a blank screen. As far as image enhancements are concerned for the moment the best option is still the good old Mameplus 168.
Again you have very valuable info here (sarcastic laughs). No info on which shaders produce blank screens and best option is Mameplus 168.
If you, in all of this, can find something useful, well then i can safely say, thats what i would exactly expect from any xBRZ/Hq/Bullshit image enhancement shader outthere, be it Mameplus 168, Mameminus 0170... "to give an ugly picture or just a blank screen".
IMHO in all of this "valuable" info, i found MG first post very civil and friendly and i can imagine, he felt personally addressed as he has ported those shaders. So if I have the opportunity to interact with the author itself, believe me, my approach would be different, if i would be really interested in better xBRZ shaders.
I remember some topics in the past, where you have explained, that casual (MAME) users, are only good for one thing: testing stuff and reporting bugs. Well, then start to educate them to do this properly, because this would be a good start avoiding threads like this here *and* would be more in your interest. Start to have proper moderated forums, even if you sometimes think its funny to read out-of-control rage posts.
You need to realize that users are mostly very lazy, especially in the shader-segment-section. If people would be really interested in experimenting with i.e. HLSL, they would realize what kind of powerful shader-system they have under their fingertips. Unfortunately this is not the case and so shaders like crt-geom or lotte shader become the more popular ones.
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