MAMEWorld Forums - EmuChat - Re: Sadness in the front end world....

> It was. I should've included a disclaimer saying UI builds and Win UI front ends
> are
> > not part of the topics. Ah well.
>
> No... people should just grow up.
>
> So here's the deal:
> Mamesick, uman, B2K24, Haze, Vaughn, other people in the last thread... all of you...
> you're all wrong. (Is wrong the right word? Don't know... that's all I got right
> now).

I must admit, that i smiled and laughed a lot, by reading your post. But in your abstinence of over a year, you missed a lot of ugly things, that happened here at MW. So no, i am not wrong, sorry. For example, arcade only frontends are not only not tolerated, no, there is the urgent need to defame, blame and spread lies about such frontends (full of bugs and what not) and their authors, all of this in the public. Just look at B2K24, he officialy said here, he didnt even looked into UIFX, but is sure that this frontend is a buggy piece of shit, that can safely be trashed. Like he and some team members, will use any opportunity for backstabbing. Think about this and how much can be tolerated, until you start to act the very same way

.

So when Traso thought Mamesick was a mellowed guy, well, he was and he is and has the heart on the right place, but being mobbed like this, exceeded every limit and the result now, is what you can read here or in other threads.

> Go back and re-read your responses to people, from an outside point of view... they
> all come to the same conclusion... my way is better because "x." Honestly.

Never said, that my way is better, only that i *do it my way* (and why), which you also agree to (see below).

> What it comes down to:
>
> -- There are LOTS of external frontends out there. Try them all, and pick one for
> yourself.
> -- Someone else doesn't like your choice... so FUCKING what.
> -- Said another way... I will NEVER own a white car... I think it's a shitty color
> for a car. But there's lots of other people out there that own and love their white
> car. You think any of them give a shit what I think of their car. NO. And who the
> fuck am I to pressure them to get a different color car.

Exactly. Sad thing is, some team members absolutely dont agree to this and very, very bad things happened. Things that lead to such discussions now and i doubt it will be the last.

> -- You don't like the built-in MAME frontend. So FUCKING what. It's not there for
> you... it's there for people who will use it the way it was designed. Compared to
> years ago, when there was NO frontend, it's damn better than nothing. And it works on
> any platform.
> -- You want a better built-in frontend in MAME? Then step up and submit code that
> will work on all platforms, and are willing to maintain.
> -- Can't do either. Stop bitching that some other dev "should do it." Maybe there is
> no one currently active that is good at the front-end code part. Maybe there is, but
> they have other things they'd rather work on instead.

Just to clarify, I still enjoy nearly every release of official MAME, but I explained very well with my city-library example, how i treat them. I never pushed any of the devs, to do things, that i would like to see. Seriously *never*.

> Amazing that the most sensible people in this thread are Traso and Moogly Guy.
>
> And here's my MG comment that people can use against me to say that I kiss up to
> devs. I can't speak to how he's behaved on the dev list, but on forums... going back
> to 1999... he's mostly been a helpful person. He just doesn't like stupid people, or
> the self-entitled (please spoonfeed me the help that I'm looking for), and is "more
> vocal" about it than other people. I guess you could say he doesn't use his inside
> voice all the time. There are many people here who have never had a problem with
> him... the rest need to get over it.
>
> *deep breath*
> *leaves for dinner*

Well, this is the most funniest part in your whole post. All of it may apply to your experience, but in no FUCKING way to mine. Keep that outraging tasmanic devil in a cage, dont unleash him, give him the pills he probably need, to be that calm, like in this thread here (and i was very, very surprised i admit). I have a thick skin and seen many things, but sorry to say that, i never met in my whole life a person who acts like him (and i am a little older). Never, ever in any forum i have been, is a guy with that behaviour tolerated for a hour, let alone for years, so probably your all fail, that you cant keep him in his place.

At the end of this neverending story, i will pick up that line, written by Mamesick:

"Oh, no, you're wrong. There are no victims here. Only losers."

And with losers, i mean all of us, because we all do what we do, driven by passion and love for all the retro stuff and bizarrest machines. Some do it more, some less. Some are sainted talents, some not. Some do it that way, some in this, but we do all share this passion and love. So why this hate? As if the world around us, is not hard enough.

Edited by uman (09/04/16 07:18 PM)