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Re: Sadness in the front end world....
09/02/16 03:06 PM


Ok, i try to keep any emotion out of this and write my opinion about this.

> also, most of the ones that get recommended by the developers *are* designed for
> usability, just not YOUR use case, they have lot of options there because anybody
> wanting to use the project seriously needs those options.

We are talking about frontends here, a thing that people use, who have their own taste about what is easy to use and what they need from the whole MAME project. Anyone who wants to use it like you mentioned "seriously", is perfectly fine with official MAME. They probably dont *need* a frontend anyway.

> The number of selfish users who think we need to meet their use cases and fuck
> anybody who needs to do anything more serious with the project is astounding,
> although not surprising since it's mostly the same people who hate on us for wanting
> to preserve things they don't personally like too.

As i feel personally addressed with this, let me explain a view things. I mainly use MAME in a cab with a real CRT and want to play arcade games only with it. This is a reasonable statement, because of the following facts:

Nearly no 2nd gen. console would make sense in a cab. Anything with analog controllers and shoulder buttons for sure. Nearly no computer (especially how this is solved with currently official MAME) makes sense in a cab. Too many freaked feature stuff in it, not to mention that many drivers are working only partially and with (still) better alternatives to it. I want to play and have a nice experience while playing in freetime. I still can have a guinea pig situations with my PC setup, but i dont want them at all in a cab-setup, that is made for gaming, so i *expect* from my frontend, that all this stuff is removed, that i dont want to see.

So why do you think, it is wrong for me, wanting to have a frontend that exactly meets my desires?

On the other side, once and for all, i dont have anything against the project at all or what you do with it, as long as the above mentioned stuff is still possible to do.
I dont hate you for wanting to preserve things, i don't personally like. I hate discussions that end in flame wars, demagogic ranting, as soon as someone has other reasonable arguments other than yours or your final wisdom for a (hardware) topic is reached. I probably cant never help with any drivers, code etc. , but i still can be right with arguments on a level of how some hardware works i.e. and if not, you could answer in a normal kind manner. Because that would lead to a way more healthy scene, the discussion would be remembered as very valuable info instead of something that will lead to hate.

Its not the case, that i involve myself just to disturb you all and its also very rare that i even have to say something, but as soon as i see some backlog and have the strong feeling, you are wrong in that case, i will not just STFU. It is then a situation, where i have the opportunity to contribute with my knowledge and experience. Sadly, such things end up very fast on a very personal level, which is not my fault, because of all the mentioned aspects before.







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* Sadness in the front end world.... Traso 09/02/16 12:22 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... DMala  09/02/16 08:03 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Vaughan  09/02/16 10:58 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... B2K24  09/02/16 04:43 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/02/16 11:22 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/02/16 03:06 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/02/16 06:07 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/02/16 07:29 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/02/16 07:55 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/02/16 09:51 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/03/16 04:14 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/03/16 07:28 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/03/16 02:44 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/03/16 06:11 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Haze  09/05/16 01:18 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/05/16 07:42 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... B2K24  09/02/16 11:00 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/03/16 10:20 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/03/16 12:03 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... B2K24  09/03/16 09:14 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/04/16 07:52 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... *DELETED* Traso  09/04/16 11:51 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Traso  09/04/16 01:25 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mr. DoAdministrator  09/04/16 02:15 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/04/16 07:08 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/04/16 07:58 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Traso  09/04/16 12:04 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/04/16 08:34 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... CTOJAH  09/04/16 10:35 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/05/16 08:13 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/04/16 12:17 AM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... B2K24  09/02/16 04:54 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... uman  09/02/16 06:01 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/02/16 12:19 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... MooglyGuy  09/02/16 12:32 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/02/16 01:57 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... SmitdoggAdministrator  09/02/16 02:21 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/02/16 02:42 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... R. Belmont  09/02/16 04:36 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... Mamesick  09/02/16 04:57 PM
. * Re: Sadness in the front end world.... MooglyGuy  09/02/16 02:11 PM

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