MAMEWorld Forums - The Loony Bin

> > > > I was thinking the exact same thing, in an instance like this anyone in his
> near
> > > > proximity could probably have ended the carnage in a second if they were
> concealed
> > > > owners and had their gun. I did not know about the ban until I read your
> comment.
> >
> > >
> > > Bullshit. You seriously think you could get the guy in a crowded, darkened,
> > > smoke-filled cinema when he's wearing a bullet-proof vest? You'd need to place
> the
> > > guy, clear the line in front and behind him, and get a shot on a part of him that
> > > isn't armoured. You would've just increased the number of victims.
> >
> >
> > If there was a chance that even a small percentage of the people in that theater
> had
> > guns, then this guy would have never tried this in the first place. Nobody would
> need
> > to take him out in a "darkened, smoke-filled cinema" because he wouldn't be there.
>
> Three problems with that reply. First up, you're changed the angle completely —
> NinjaKunt claimed that someone else with a gun "could probably have ended the carnage
> in a second" which is action movie fantasy, given the situation. Secondly, he's
> chosen a plan where other people with guns are unlikely to stop him from being able
> to do a lot of damage. Thirdly, the people who do this kind of thing are usually
> quite unstable and can't be counted on to think rationally, so others with guns are
> unlikely to be an effective deterrent.

To pile on:

- This was Aurora, Co. I guarantee you that a handful of people inside that theater were packing. If you were expecting no guns, you'd go to a different theater. I'm guessing proximity to his apartment was the only factor here.

- He was in FULL swat gear, plus some. Vest, face shield, neck guard, leg Kevlar, groin pad, etc, etc. Anything that patrons were concealing wasn't going to do the job.

- The kid was smart. Large drums for the AR-15, tear gas diversion, car parked out back, apartment wired with what appears to be explosives or incendiaries. Heck they still aren't inside the apartment. Made purchases over the course of weeks.

- He was out of there quick. Minutes. Well planned, most people probably didn't have a real clue until it was too late.

- He seems to be the very definition of a schizophrenic break. He may be in full control of his faculties, but has completely lost touch with reality. For all we know he really does think he's the goddamn Joker. I've known a few people recovering from similar mental breaks, it isn't pretty. Smart people, even after, but you have no real indication of where they are in reality from one minute to the next.