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Bryan Ischo
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Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame
09/22/10 07:56 PM


> Beyond that, most games' random-number generation is entirely internal to the game
> (ie, MAME cannot influence it as such), and frankly only Don Hodges knows how they
> operate.

I for one find this to be a very interesting topic. I would enjoy knowing how arcade hardware generated random numbers (it would be different for every system, I imagine, but there are probably enough similarities to be able to discuss how it works in general).

So if Don Hodges wants to share any juicy tidbits on this topic I would really love to hear them!

Also - just out of curiousity - has the random number emulation of any games ever been rigorously tested? For some hardware I would imagine this would be easy - if, for example, the hardware always started every game with the same seed, or successive games with predictable seeds - and for others, much harder (if a counter that is latched when the game is started is used as the seed, for example, in which case starting a game on hardware with a known seed would be quite challenging). Comparing a game played with 'no inputs (inputs would affect the way the game played out)' on hardware versus MAME with a known random number generator seed for each would allow validation that the RNG is correctly emulated. This sounds like a royal pain in the butt so I would understand if nobody has ever done anything like it; but if anything has been done, I'd find it interesting to hear the specifics.







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* Random generators in PCB vs mame GatKong 09/22/10 05:03 PM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame Tomu Breidah  09/23/10 07:30 AM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame R. Belmont  09/22/10 06:22 PM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame Bryan Ischo  09/22/10 07:56 PM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame R. Belmont  09/22/10 09:01 PM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame italieAdministrator  09/23/10 04:49 AM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame franciscohs  09/22/10 10:22 PM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame CrapBoardSoftware  09/23/10 09:18 AM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame etabeta  09/23/10 08:48 AM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame mahlemiut  09/22/10 11:20 PM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame R. Belmont  09/22/10 11:16 PM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame Phantom DJ  09/22/10 10:09 PM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame GatKong  09/23/10 04:12 AM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame Phantom DJ  09/26/10 07:13 AM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame GatKong  09/27/10 04:38 AM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame amused  09/23/10 03:59 AM
. * Re: Random generators in PCB vs mame ShimaPong  09/23/10 03:50 PM

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