FWIW I tried Any/Clone on it last night and it failed out with an unknown mastering error, and today there was an update to Any that I just installed and after installation it appears to be working. It's a brand new DVD so I guess they needed a few hours to figure it out. So now I can actually watch the DVD, a rip of it. Thanks Hollyweird now if you could just put an end to the teal and orange era we can be one big happy family of pirates.