If the media doesn't completely shut him out like they did Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders... whoever else...
I think I'd be okay with Robert F. Kennedy winning. I'd prefer Trump but with sus voting machines and "vote fortification", and hundreds or thousands of ballets appearing in the middle of the night that just happen to be for the establishment puppet, in the most secure and voted on election in U.S. history - you never know who'll win. Well, actually you might know.
Of course the media will immediately go to him being "anti-vax" and dismiss him.
Given the way his voice is - I hope that doesn't hinder him.
Trump or Kennedy. The establishment is going to have to do some extra work in smearing and/or getting rid of these 2.
> If the media doesn't completely shut him out like they did Ron Paul, Bernie > Sanders... whoever else... > > I think I'd be okay with Robert F. Kennedy winning. I'd prefer Trump but with sus > voting machines and "vote fortification", and hundreds or thousands of ballets > appearing in the middle of the night that just happen to be for the establishment > puppet, in the most secure and voted on election in U.S. history - you never know > who'll win. Well, actually you might know. > > Of course the media will immediately go to him being "anti-vax" and dismiss him. > > Given the way his voice is - I hope that doesn't hinder him. > > Trump or Kennedy. The establishment is going to have to do some extra work in > smearing and/or getting rid of these 2.
In all honesty, it doesn't matter which party is in charge in DC.
Neither one cares about its voters. Once politicians get to DC, they care only about enriching themselves and they will stay there until they die.
I don't expect any serious effort from them towards fixing the US's problems, so it's much easier to tune them out and live your own life in spite of them.
I recommend that to everyone, regardless of where you are on the political spectrum.
"Note to Noobs:
We are glad to help you but simply posting that something does not work is not going to lead to you getting help. The more information you can supply defining your problem, the less likely it will be that you will get smart-alec replies.
Still carrying on about the voting machines? That already cost Fox over three quarters of a billion dollars. Remember the US has a relatively high bar for defamation – you need to show that they knowingly lied with the intention of causing reputational damage. They couldn’t hide behind, “it’s not news, it’s entertainment,” on this one.
> Still carrying on about the voting machines? That already cost Fox over three > quarters of a billion dollars. Remember the US has a relatively high bar for > defamation – you need to show that they knowingly lied with the intention of causing > reputational damage. They couldn’t hide behind, “it’s not news, it’s entertainment,” > on this one.
The number of people at a Trump Rally vs the number of people for a Biden Rally... There's hundreds of times more people. So Biden winning based on that seems extremely weird.
Covid 19 (that was totally not manufactured in a lab in Wuhan ) comes along and voting practices have to be greatly modified with more people voting absentee, or mail-in ballots, there was even ballot harvesting and ballot drop-offs. Even that magazine article where they openly admitted to having so-called "fortified elections" -like, WTF is that supposed to mean?
Then you take things like Epstein's murder...
The point is, Biden winning seems extremely strange. He wasn't even that popular, even Kamala Harris (the VP) had a very low approval rating. Very powerful people can get what they want.
It's like you find cookies missing from the cookie jar, it's dinner time and little Johnny isn't hungry. But you can't accuse him of eating the cookies because you have no proof. Just like there's no "proof" of election fraud. Even questioning it and they'll sue you for a gazillion dollars. Yeah. A threat like that would have anyone hesitant to make the claim, but they'll still know, they'll still think what they think.
The grounds wet outside but I'll be sued for saying it rained. So I better not say it rained, but I'll always think, even know that had to have rained. And it's ridiculous to think that Biden actually, legitimately won.
Was it the voting machines? That might have been part of it. I think they had multiple ways to manipulate the results, so that it's hard to point at any one thing.
Are they saying that another pandemic is coming? Just in time for the 2024 election. Wow. What a co-winky'dink.
> The number of people at a Trump Rally vs the number of people for a Biden Rally... > There's hundreds of times more people. So Biden winning based on that seems extremely > weird.
Funny, I thought US elections were based on votes cast, not rally attendance.
> The point is, Biden winning seems extremely strange. He wasn't even that popular, > even Kamala Harris (the VP) had a very low approval rating. Very powerful people can > get what they want.
That just goes to show how much people hate Trump. People weren’t voting for Biden, they were voting against Trump (much like people were voting against Hilary in 2016, or voting against Kerry in 2004 allowing G.W. Bush to be reelected while very unpopular).
> The number of people at a Trump Rally vs the number of people for a Biden Rally... > There's hundreds of times more people. So Biden winning based on that seems extremely > weird.
this is true of every president who isn't trump. you aren't supposed to be such a big fan of the president, or any other politician, that's what's actually really fuckin weird here.
RFK jr. isn’t anywhere like his Kennedy ancestors. His anti-vax stance is one minor drawback, but there are other views from him that tarnish his credibility. If his relative weren’t flying the plane at night back in 1999, I could see John maybe being US Senate member at this time.
Both RFK jr. and Cornel West will be third party candidates in 2024 and wouldn’t fare any better than past candidates such as Jesse Jackson or Ralph Nader.
And another voting machine manufacturer with their defamation lawsuit to take placer later.
I don’t care for the various electronic voting systems either because of past possible voting systems manipulation to commit false election fraud tallies. The 2002 Help America Vote Act opened doors for electronics voting systems to interfere with outcomes that were not expected such as some races back in Ohio 2004.
Almost all of the companies that marketed various voting systems to secret proprietary technology in which inspectors had limited access to test the systems. Voting should be treated as a right that supersedes commercialism and therefore each state should design and create its own voting systems equipment and not be some proprietary product that is not open source and marketed by a private company instead of each state.
Each state should go back to prior methods for voting results instead of letting a company with its proprietary voting system control the election outcomes.
Quote: Each state should go back to prior methods for voting results instead of letting a company with its proprietary voting system control the election outcomes.
Nope, the old voting methods were crap. The punchcards that couldn't be reliably talled or the old voting booth machines where the voter never even saw their ballot and could trivially be tampered with. Paper ballots that are tallied by computer but are stored can can be recounted easily are far better and only paranoid shit-for-brains like Breidah think they are less safe.
> > The number of people at a Trump Rally vs the number of people for a Biden Rally... > > There's hundreds of times more people. So Biden winning based on that seems > extremely > > weird. > > this is true of every president who isn't trump. you aren't supposed to be such a big > fan of the president, or any other politician, that's what's actually really fuckin > weird here.
Trump ran as an outsider, a contrast to the Obama administration. That's why he was so popular among those that voted for him in 2016.
And being an outsider seems to be very accurate given that warmongering, Haliburton asset, Rino Dick ("the order still stands!") Cheney didn't like Trump.
Then you had almost all of the MSM (news, late-night "comedy" shows, etc.) were a perpetual flowing busted fire hydrant of shit flowing out towards everything Trump did or said.
So all that does is help cement the sentiment of Trump being an outsider when the system is constantly against him.
I'd have to wonder if anyone that claims that they hate Trump can say that it isn't because of something they've heard, seen, or read from MSM sources.
Look into Trump's un... Eh, never mind. You're probably happy/comfortable in your hatred for him.
> RFK jr. isn’t anywhere like his Kennedy ancestors. His anti-vax stance is one minor > drawback, but there are other views from him that tarnish his credibility. If his > relative weren’t flying the plane at night back in 1999, I could see John maybe being > US Senate member at this time. > > Both RFK jr. and Cornel West will be third party candidates in 2024 and wouldn’t fare > any better than past candidates such as Jesse Jackson or Ralph Nader.
That might turn out to be the case. But I definitely don't see Biden having any chance of gaining any support from Democratic or Liberal voters. Unless they're so extremely out of touch and suffering from chronic TDS.
That's assuming he even runs or even lives that long.
Then again, that probably doesn't even matter. I can't say I have much faith in the voting process given the odd results of the previous election.
And I'm not aware of any other candidates to take up the torch for the Dems.
Look into Trump’s history. He’s got a bunch of business failures on record (including two bankrupt casinos), he’d be a whole lot richer than he claims to be if he’d just parked his inheritance in an index fund, all evidence suggests he isn’t as rich as he claims he is anyway, he implied he wanted to fuck his daughter when she was thirteen, he cheats on his wife and then pays the women hush money… What’s he actually good at, besides talking shit?
> RFK jr. isn’t anywhere like his Kennedy ancestors. His anti-vax stance is one minor > drawback, but there are other views from him that tarnish his credibility.
> Nope, the old voting methods were crap. The punchcards that couldn't be reliably talled or the old voting booth > machines where the voter never even saw their ballot and could trivially be tampered with. Paper ballots that > are tallied by computer but are stored can can be recounted easily
Before the federal 2002 law had been created, I still preferred the Orange County, CA voting system setup where it was using punch cards compared to what other counties in CA were using at the time. When the computerized systems were then being offered to counties as a contract service with an an enclosed black box system that only the company technicians were allowed to handle, that set off alarm bells knowing behind scenes manipulation was possible and appropriately did concern folks that wanted fair elections to not be compromised or tainted.
That is why I was glad that proponents for an open system accountability like Brad Friedman had done with his radio shows and podcasts exposing the problems with enclosed black box computer voting systems back then.
I am glad that CA now uses the registration motor voter mail out system where everyone now gets into the voter registration system to make things easier for the mass public be registered to vote and receives voting related paperwork in the mail and can easily drop off their cast votes at a valid voting collection center. I am still suspicious with any of the voting computer systems that are still behind a black box operation. If a state had set up a state created designed open computer system setup that can be inspected by officials or anyone, I might be willing to use that to vote, but until that happens, I’ll stay with paper ballot.
For me, I wait until the day before making any votes on the paper ballot and then personally drop off my ballot at the poll center I go to vote on Election Day. The reason for that is in case a candidate unexpectedly drops out of a race at the last moment which has happened before in past elections
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It used to be possible to believe that a state run controlled operation would be safe, but after seeing how a state like Florida or Texas can be severely affected with an openly corrupt political party and a dictator type governor, that makes me skeptical these days. I am rooting for Disney Corp. to sue the hell out of the governor in Fla. and the various GOP stalwarts that are strategically being targeted by Disney’s corporate lawyers for lawsuits. It would take a lot for me to root for Disney Corp, but after what has taken place in Florida, I am rooting for the mouse.
Whichever side of this you're on, one truth remains: any accusation of illegitimacy that is not addressed invites more accusations of illegitimacy, and it exponentially increases the odds that said accusations have something to them. If somebody cries foul, you either address what they're basing it on or expect more people to cry foul.
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I have officially retired from sucking at everything I do. Life is much easier now.
The MAGA followers were attempting to interrupt and displace the actual Libertarian convention attendees and hijack the Libertarian convention. The Libertarian attendees were not going to allow that to happen and did push aside MAGA crazies out of the assigned seats that were for actual Libertarian audience members there.
Good for the Libertarians that were not going to allow their convention to be hijacked.
— MAGA Rages at RFK Jr. Stunt Ahead of Donald Trump's Speech
Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his supporters have reportedly handed out rubber chickens to attendees of the Libertarian Party convention ahead of former President Donald Trump's speech Saturday night in Washington, D.C.
The squawking rubber chickens have "Debate Bobby" written on them and are presumably intended to heckle and mock the presumptive Republican nominee as he looks to court right-leaning libertarian voters.
That was a stupid decision by the Libertarian committee to invite the jackass to speak because the committee underestimated what could have happened. Good that the Libertarian audience was not going to accept that hijack stunt.
On the amusing side, here is a video example of the sounds that come from the rubber chicken.
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