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What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
#395345 - 12/22/22 09:44 PM
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What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
Edited by Doosh (12/26/22 01:10 PM)
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395349 - 12/23/22 01:44 PM
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> What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
The first day of christmas my MAME gave to me ...
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395350 - 12/23/22 04:19 PM
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395352 - 12/23/22 08:21 PM
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> What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395353 - 12/23/22 08:35 PM
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Not so much a resolution but a new years wish.
I wish MAME devs would put there differences aside & get along as it only hurts new coders & contributors to the project wanting to join & help to preserve games in the long run.
A new rule should be all arguments settled like this!. A game of something all parties agree in, say both agree a game of Galaga played live! & broadcast to the emulation scene & highest score wins or furthest a person gets. Then the videos or code examined & the winner posted gets for a whole year to say they are right or whatever the argument is about say they won. After said year the loser then could challenge again or submit proof to clear them.
I've read a few things on here which I think is wrong & shouldn't happen as I was always told growing up.
IF YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING NICE THEN DON'T SAY ANYTHING AT ALL.
OK This is only my opinion of things that's happened & yes I don't know all the facts but you gotta agree how it looks as an outsider & my suggestion of how things should be sorted out in the future.
All agreements / disagreements replies or whatever you wanna say on this it's up to you.
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395355 - 12/23/22 11:10 PM
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-- Get the rest of the current artwork updated to the new system, so that Vas can finally rip out the older deprecated code.
-- Get back to scanning... have a backlog going back years
-- When that's done, go back to Glendale, and see if Gene has any new stuff... probably does, as I haven't been there in years... also need to get a ton of marquees that he has, that aren't currently available
-- Finally add in the G&W and other handheld artwork to my site
-- Sit back and wait for cool things to happen from the Dev Team, like they do every other year
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: MooglyGuy]
#395358 - 12/24/22 03:10 AM
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: agard]
#395374 - 12/26/22 01:09 PM
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You are correct, should have originally said wish instead of resolution 😉
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: agard]
#395375 - 12/26/22 03:29 PM
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You really don't have any knowledge or insight whatsoever into what goes on behind the scenes. You're falling into a very easy psychological trap to fall into, which is thinking that somehow the MAME team has some enormous amount of team acrimony compared to other emulators.
The reality is that the core development team includes everyone from straight white Trump-voting dudes, to agender avowed leftists, to middle-of-the-road folks from developing countries, all of whom have come together for the sole purpose of emulating games.
Other than a very small number of incidents that came about after years of constant misbehavior and active undermining of the rest of the team, the MAME team has remained a remarkably cohesive whole, with the vast majority of departures simply coming about from people getting older and having more life obligations, meaning less time to devote to MAME. Literally no team, organization, or company under the sun has managed to go without the occasional bad egg that needs to be discarded, and the fact that you don't seem to understand that makes it evident that you somehow are responding from elsewhere than the real world. Even the small handful of other emulation projects that match the size and scope of MAME have far more endemic problems with toxicity. It's frankly bizarre that you seem to have this warped perspective that you do.
Since from your post you seem to be fond of "old sayings" that are largely decoupled from reality, here's a good one: "Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt."
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395376 - 12/26/22 05:53 PM
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A new version of Bridge M1 player or maybe have one integrated into mame.
And yes I know about VGMPlay, the thing is that it doesn't do everything like playback of the Midway DCS based systems or other games that stream or load data from hard drives, and the old Bridge M1 has no support for DCS2 Ram/rom playback.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: APN]
#395377 - 12/26/22 06:47 PM
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> A new version of Bridge M1 player or maybe have one integrated into mame. > > And yes I know about VGMPlay, the thing is that it doesn't do everything like > playback of the Midway DCS based systems or other games that stream or load data from > hard drives, and the old Bridge M1 has no support for DCS2 Ram/rom playback.
I'd love to see something like this, too!
I have a suspicion that the core functionality of M1 could likely be accomplished through clever use of Lua scripting now that MAME's Lua interface has gotten more mature, but I could be wrong. Might be something fun for me to look into while I'm on vacation.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395378 - 12/26/22 09:44 PM
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Gals Panic II and Racing Jam playable already.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395380 - 12/27/22 12:13 AM
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all the handheld casio games to be emulated (western bar heli-battle etc) all the handheld gakken games to be emulated (pinball circus trojan horse etc)
all the handheld games from early 80s up to early 90s https://www.handheldmuseum.com/
and also gals panic ii to be playable
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: pepinos]
#395381 - 12/27/22 12:30 AM
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> all the handheld casio games to be emulated (western bar heli-battle etc) > all the handheld gakken games to be emulated (pinball circus trojan horse etc) > > all the handheld games from early 80s up to early 90s https://www.handheldmuseum.com/ > > and also gals panic ii to be playable
Shooting for the moon, huh?
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395384 - 12/27/22 02:09 AM
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I guess it is time for my addition... My wishes are that the current development team take some time to rest and recharge their interests in doing what they do. In addition, I would hope that we, as a community, not only support them but also help build new interest to other generations for helping to contribute to the MAME project by adding their expertise towards researching, coding, or the acquisition of hardware.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395385 - 12/27/22 02:31 AM
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Someone find and dump Bouncer.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: MooglyGuy]
#395386 - 12/27/22 02:32 AM
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> Shooting for the moon, huh?
all handhelds of the 80s until early 90s is a desire wish for playable on mame for all the generations who grew up with these toys from 70s and 80s ages
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: mhoes]
#395389 - 12/27/22 12:50 PM
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395390 - 12/27/22 01:08 PM
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: MooglyGuy]
#395392 - 12/27/22 09:08 PM
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>> all the handheld casio games to be emulated (western bar heli-battle etc) >> all the handheld gakken games to be emulated (pinball circus trojan horse etc) > >> all the handheld games from early 80s up to early 90s > >> and also gals panic ii to be playable
>Shooting for the moon, huh?
Frank says “Let’s go for it.” *kidding*
Frank Sinatra : The Impossible Dream (The Quest)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xoN7_lR1MOw
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395394 - 12/28/22 12:20 PM
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I forgot to tell there is 2 games around the globe, they are not yet in mame.
Outer Zone / Not Out Zone. Adventure Canoe
Both avaliable on Taito Egret II mini. ![](//www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif)
NeoGeo last prototypes, found it but not released to public, thanks to RoU2022. What is Billy Pitt doing it? Searching for trading games? You can´t. If you want them so badly go contact the creators for the mystery games or visit japan. And release the games you already have it from RoU! Japan is no longer partner 100% of SNK, Saudi Arabia take them all out in one big hand. The licence is already death and soon carts in japan will belong in the used store.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: fahire6259]
#395395 - 12/28/22 01:45 PM
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Another Animalbear account!
Requests Gals Panic 2.. check
Rants about NeoGeo protos.. check
wants MAME to take ROMs from other products.. check
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Anyway, the story with the NeoGeo protos is simple, even if you have a license for the game with a view to reissuing it, and spend a small fortune on legal people to track down the owners of the carts (current owners, not people flashing around screenshots) they want their $500,000 payday just to provide a copy of the ROM data.
They're not happening, not even as licensed releases, forget about them.
> I forgot to tell there is 2 games around the globe, they are not yet in mame. > > Outer Zone / Not Out Zone. > Adventure Canoe > > Both avaliable on Taito Egret II mini. > > NeoGeo last prototypes, found it but not released to public, thanks to RoU2022. What > is Billy Pitt doing it? Searching for trading games? You can´t. If you want them so > badly go contact the creators for the mystery games or visit japan. And release the > games you already have it from RoU! > Japan is no longer partner 100% of SNK, Saudi Arabia take them all out in one big > hand. > The licence is already death and soon carts in japan will belong in the used store.
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: UFOdave]
#395396 - 12/28/22 01:50 PM
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> Any chance Gamshara will become playable in MAME in 2023? > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zaJd6myXwc&t=180s
Probably not, that system10 protection is nasty.
I was offered a decent contract to get it sorted at one point, but couldn't make head nor tail of it to even give it a proper modern release.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Haze]
#395398 - 12/28/22 02:00 PM
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Haze is not releasing anything good since as been on youtube - check
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And people have those roms at home inside is own computer and they only share to friends very close. Those games are already running on neoragex they was stolen from someone. Take off games out from a nother product is the same thing to take off products from the stores. I think i do not need to tell what games is, and you know it very well. Move along and go play Mattel emulated games.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395400 - 12/28/22 03:38 PM
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i would say also planet harriers to be emulated sometime in 2023 if it can be possible
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395406 - 12/28/22 11:09 PM
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Complete sound emulation from PIC16C57 of cps1 bootlegs Find new heroes for complete emulation (most important thing)
Edited by fortuna_chan (12/28/22 11:10 PM)
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395411 - 12/29/22 10:47 AM
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> What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
Separating the post into segments.
The thanks for contributions in 2022 :
The contributors for the rare games and prototypes:
Deco cassette titles The Tower and Nebula, also additions of MM2, Segumi Rescue, and other various rare coinop titles provided by many others over 2022 year. My thanks.
Moogly for the laser disc game, Fairlight system, and recent Quizard work and other updates over the year. Phil B for his work, and Haze for additions of some of the rare coinop titles.
Windy fairy, Dragonminded and others for the Konami related updates.
Some of the brief net list contributions by Golden Child and Couriersud. Duke for the Casio RZ1 drum machine updates.
And huge thanks to Sean Riddle, hap, and the designer of the Mattel Auto Race game in which it became possible for Sean and hap to emulate the first generation of Rockwell chip hardware in order to emulate some of the remaining well known Mattel Electronics led games. One very grateful old timer here being able to eventually enjoy playing those games once again with actual game data instead of simulation or a generic recreation of the actual Mattel led games.
As for safe guessing predictions in 2023:
bug fixes, software list updates, NEC computer updates, 4am continuing Apple related disk updates for preservation, kmg for NES related updates, and Haze doing additions along the way and Vas doing UI updates over the next year, and Sean doing further handheld chip dumping emulation while hap is continuing further chessboard game additions.
As for 2023 personal wishlist :
any more Deco cassette titles being preserved and supported.
Casio RZ 1 drum unit being tidied up some more although Duke did a great update in 2022.
Konami Drum Mania series fully emulated if possible.
Maybe another laser disc title addition and BrianT doing more additions of IGT PEPlus hardware titles.
And maybe more IBM 5150 hardware DOS boot up diskette games being added…preferably in original form instead of cracked versions.
And any more net list related work whether it be audio, hardware component emulation, any more roms of non-cpu games being dumped and added / documented in MAME. I’ll settle for any specific minor update.
And being in better health in 2023 with hopefully sans carcinoma skin cancer with remaining ones removed so I can try to complete what was on my todo list for 2022.
Edited by gregf (01/03/23 04:49 AM)
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395412 - 12/29/22 11:01 AM
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> What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
Same as always, the hope that as many slot machines as possible can be preserved and emulated before they vanish forever. Yes, from crappy old 3-reel mechanical games right through to modern PC-based hardware (MAME doesn't actually emulate any "American style" 3-reel slots to my knowledge, for example, one solitary S+ game is preserved in MAME but emulation is next to nonexistent, it isn't even close to the likes of fruit machines).
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395413 - 12/29/22 01:38 PM
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395414 - 12/29/22 01:57 PM
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First of all, thank you to all past, present and future MAME contributors. The work that has been done to date and what continues to be done on MAME is awesome - Thank you.
I hope in 2023, that further improvements are undertaken for the SEGA Model X emulation and other laser disc players are emulated, along with laser disc games preserved 😀
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395417 - 12/30/22 03:55 AM
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> I hope in 2023, that further improvements are undertaken for the SEGA Model X emulation and other laser disc > players are emulated, along with laser disc games preserved
Frank is warming up his vocal chords for an encore presentation. ![](//www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/tomato.gif)
Frank Sinatra : The Impossible Dream (The Quest)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xoN7_lR1MOw
Settle for a rescued / preserved alternate version of another Sega System 18 game instead? Plenty more needing to be rescued from FD1094 although it is possible to resurrect those pcbs these days.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395421 - 12/30/22 01:25 PM
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Heihachi_73]
#395422 - 12/30/22 02:25 PM
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The legal rules around slot machines make getting hold of them to dump their software much harder I suspect. Especially so anything that is still current and in use in venues somewhere (if random people could get hold of the hardware and/or software and poke around in it, they might discover flaws in the machine and cheat the system)
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395436 - 12/31/22 08:37 AM
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I'd so like to see the DICE games and other pre-cartridge systems done or re-done in MAME. Pong/Hockey/Shoot/Racing/Tennis/Tank/Speedway/Indy500.. those dedicated consoles.
And I want to see Atari Video Pinball C-380 too.
How practical or realistic any of that is I haven't the slightest clue. Not a developer.
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Happy New Year
[Re: Doosh]
#395443 - 12/31/22 03:30 PM
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Happy New Year from Australia, SA. Hope 2023 will be a better year for everyone.
Posted when the clock turned midnight!
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395445 - 12/31/22 09:56 PM
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Got way too much wishes but I'd rather not list them all because it'd be a complete mess of meaningless nonsense. I'm going to truncate the list for my own good.
- Namco System 23, deep down, is something I'd like to see properly emulated whether it's in Mame or elsewhere. I'm extremely curious to why Motocross Go flat out hardlocks when attempting to render certain 3d areas.
- I wish for myself to stop making comments anywhere involving Mame development. Attempting to contribute has done more harm than good for my mental health the past six months.
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emulating actual cabs of non-cpu games and Atari video pinball C 380 model
[Re: Keatah]
#395452 - 01/01/23 03:17 AM
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> I'd so like to see the DICE games and other pre-cartridge systems done or re-done in MAME.
There is a lot of work behind the scenes than emulating the game itself. Besides the specific TTL chip hardware that may or may not already be emulated, the analog components that the coinop cab uses also needs to be emulated such coin input components, player credits start buttons, serve buttons, player setting switches that a player selects which game to play if playing a pong clone that uses adjustable s knobs on the sides of a cocktail table. All that is required to emulate a game. Adam and Rich did accomplish good work with DICE, but it only involved gameplay while Couriersud’s work involved the game and cab emulation in order for a non-cpu game to be fully emulated in MAME.
That is why only Pong, Breakout, and Rebound are only non-cpu games emulated in MAME. Maybe some more specific Pong clones cabs can be emulated, but they might only be Allied Leisure Paddle Battle and Williams Paddle Ball assuming they are exactly as Pong. Many other Pong clones have much more differences involved meaning lots of extra emulation work needing to be done.
The other issue is monitor video output frequency controls. Pong and Rebound use a black white TV set while Breakout uses a specific game design monitor which the output is unlike the black white TV set video output with games like Pong and Rebound. Some Pong clones used different brand of monitors that might be TV sets but might have a different video output frequency. As before, these are issues that come into consideration when a non-cpu game is emulated. DICE emulated gameplay and maybe a couple control inputs that were used with a game. Couriersud had to do a lot more to faithfully emulate a non-cpu game.
> And I want to see Atari Video Pinball C-380 too.
I posted this earlier, but updating to this post instead.
https://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sh...part=1&vc=1
Hers is an example with one of the chips for an emulated game.
https://seanriddle.com/ay-3-8800-1.html
The AY-3-8800-1 is a video chip from GI that was used in the Unisonic Champion 2711 TV game.
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/tree/master/src/mame/unisonic
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/unisonic/gic.cpp
https://github.com/mamedev/mame/blob/master/src/mame/unisonic/unichamp.cpp
Telegames Pinball Breakaway
https://nicole.express/2021/pinball-in-your-house.html
For Atari C 380 model, an mcu needs to be processed first.
https://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=2&c=1111
The microcontroller is referred as C011500-1, although the system uses another Atari chip referenced C011512-05.
which is where Sean is involved
https://seanriddle.com/decap.html
And possibly cpu emulation might be required if cpu is not yet emulated already. And that is only the initial work involved.
Edited by gregf (01/03/23 05:09 AM)
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395501 - 01/08/23 04:07 AM
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> What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
I have some ones, but I have to admit they are almost impossible:
- Pioneer LaserActive emulation. There are at least two dumps from the discs, they still need to be stacked for dump verification though. Maybe this year we could see an advance on the emulation of this oscure system.
- Video Mahjong proper emulation. The games are cheezy and quite forgettable, still they represent an important part from Arcades in Japan history.
- Phillips CD-i Digital Video Cartridge (DVC) progress. CD-i has improved considerably last year, even is this can't be achieved I'm set. I just wish some forgotten soul finds and releases discoveries that make MPEG-1 decoding possible for this system someday.
- PSP skeleton driver with a proper BIOS dump. PPSSPP can't do all the work alone, they won't emulate Video UMDs either. I know a BIOS won't necessary include video decoding at all (other unemulated components will), still it's a step further on accurate emulation.
- Pump it Up first generation machines emulation. PC emulation has improved and I think this and TechnoMotion were PC based? Not sure at all, I have vague memories of the game CD requiring a Voodoo card under DOS, only time will tell.
Now that I see everything listed is all video decoding related, one of these days it will be possible just like Bemani System 573 Digital was done. Something I'm eternally grateful it happened.
Thank you for all you have done through the years. These wishes will fly in the air, but what I expect one it doesn't is for you to find the peace you need. Last year was complicated for some of you either emotionally or economically. If you think you need a rest go for it. You deserve it.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395504 - 01/08/23 05:02 PM
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Nightvoice]
#395510 - 01/09/23 07:37 AM
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I like this one! I've put some thought into it, but I haven't really gotten anywhere with it other than putting together a software list (unsubmitted).
I'd similarly like to get the VS. Systems loading arbitrary games from a software list. Here I've got no softlist yet, but the code is at least far enough along to record dumb demos where I try to play two different games at once: https://youtu.be/TnBjulIqvoU
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395514 - 01/09/23 10:31 PM
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Mametester bug 07618. Since 2016 and before.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: pepinos]
#395517 - 01/11/23 04:50 AM
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For "all" the generations who grew up in the 70's and 80's? Have you personally done a poll to account for everyone in that genre? Can I see your results? I personally grew up in that timeframe and I have no desire to see these handhelds emulated.
Now getting the graphical bugs fixed in MK4 is another question
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Envisaged0ne]
#395575 - 01/19/23 09:38 AM
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The more VFD and LED games emu'd, the better!
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Haze]
#395609 - 01/24/23 12:20 AM
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ah system 10 one of the last walls out there
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: fahire6259]
#395610 - 01/24/23 12:32 AM
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because cool only in china game systems and long standing bugfixes are not what you want you ever get bored of this you been on this crap for 10 years and have to alt dodge
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395622 - 01/29/23 03:07 AM
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> What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
-The return value read from un-mapped space: change from current "0" to "1", to represent that in real hardware circuit(TTL, or MOS with pull-up resistor);
-For the final compiled "mame.exe": instead of linking everything to a huge single file, use something like dynamic linking technology, let each lib file be loaded in run-time.
-For multi-cpu(dsp) target machine, run each cpu/dsp emulation in a seperate thread.
-Fujitsu MB86235(sega model-2c) workable
Edited by Naibo (01/29/23 03:12 AM)
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Naibo]
#395626 - 01/29/23 11:09 PM
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> -The return value read from un-mapped space: change from current "0" to "1", to > represent that in real hardware circuit(TTL, or MOS with pull-up resistor);
Just call map.unmap_high(); in your address map.
> -For the final compiled "mame.exe": instead of linking everything to a huge single > file, use something like dynamic linking technology, let each lib file be loaded in > run-time.
It’s basically impossible to do in a portable way because the Mach-O loader doesn’t allow undefined references in shared objects to be satisfied by the loading application. It would also make things slow on Windows with everything being indirected through the PLT.
> -For multi-cpu(dsp) target machine, run each cpu/dsp emulation in a seperate thread.
The trouble is you’d need some way to roll back the state when you get to a point that requires synchronisation. It’s not easy at all.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Vas Crabb]
#395627 - 01/30/23 02:18 AM
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I see. Thank you Vas for explaining.
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: jonwil]
#395628 - 01/30/23 08:03 AM
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> The legal rules around slot machines make getting hold of them to dump their software > much harder I suspect. Especially so anything that is still current and in use in > venues somewhere (if random people could get hold of the hardware and/or software and > poke around in it, they might discover flaws in the machine and cheat the system)
I think that happened on some games people where able to work out the RNG and then turn that info into when to hit the spin button to win
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Vas Crabb]
#395632 - 02/01/23 05:11 AM
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What about making "unmap_high" the default, as it matches most real hardware circuits, and this way should be more friendly to new driver developers?
> > -The return value read from un-mapped space: change from current "0" to "1", to > > represent that in real hardware circuit(TTL, or MOS with pull-up resistor); > > Just call map.unmap_high(); in your address map. >
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Naibo]
#395633 - 02/01/23 04:14 PM
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> What about making "unmap_high" the default, as it matches most real hardware > circuits, and this way should be more friendly to new driver developers?
Are you volunteering to before/after test every single driver that doesn't use it?
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Joe12345]
#395635 - 02/02/23 12:26 AM
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> > The legal rules around slot machines make getting hold of them to dump their > software > > much harder I suspect. Especially so anything that is still current and in use in > > venues somewhere (if random people could get hold of the hardware and/or software > and > > poke around in it, they might discover flaws in the machine and cheat the system) > > I think that happened on some games people where able to work out the RNG and then > turn that info into when to hit the spin button to win
Even if you know the RNG seed, you would still need TAS-like reflexes to press the button at the exact 1/60th of a second required to get the result. Miss the button press by 1 frame and the RNG will pick an entirely different result or not even spin at all because the last reel hadn't finished spinning (most games this side of 2003 don't let you hold down the button to play automatically). Get a win and the machine will also lag a few frames while it stops counting up, shows the full win amount, stops the music, adds the win to the credits (why may or may not be slower if the gamble/double up option is enabled), stops the flashing/animated symbols and finally starts a new game.
More likely it was just pure luck that the spin, relying entirely on a lowly, imperfect, error-prone human pressing the button at that exact 1/60th of a second, and not one single frame either side, triggered the free game feature/bonus on consecutive spins and actually fluked some decent wins inside the feature. You can't really mess around with the RNG during the feature as the buttons are usually locked (on most MK6 games, it unlocks just the Take Win button after counting up the win for 30 seconds or 500 credits, but some machines let you take win at any time) and free games spin automatically in almost all cases (games like Big Red being outliers - as with the Hold & Spin features on modern Lightning Link-style games). Even if you could TAS a feature trigger, you're not guaranteed to win big during the free games if you can't have 100% control of the outcome. If you're lucky, maybe the Game Rules button might work between spins to change the RNG, but usually that's disabled too once you have started the feature.
Regarding dumping slot machine software, it is legally no different to dumping an arcade PCB or a PlayStation disc - the legal part is entirely down to whether private ownership of slot machines is allowed in your country/state/territory. Basically, don't become an illegal casino and no-one will bat an eyelid. As for finding undumped ROMs (or CF cards), they're not that hard to come across (eBay USA probably being the most prominent).
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Re: What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Doosh]
#395674 - 02/16/23 08:42 PM
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> What is your new years wish for MAME in 2023?
If I had to make a guess, for the mamedevs, their biggest wish will be for people to stop making "What is your New Year's wish for Mame?" threads every year.
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"Note to Noobs:
We are glad to help you but simply posting that something does not work is not going to lead to you getting help. The more information you can supply defining your problem, the less likely it will be that you will get smart-alec replies.
C.D.~"
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Re: What is your new years resolution for MAME in 2023?
[Re: Haze]
#395970 - 04/12/23 04:44 AM
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