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Plug and Play news + donation feeler (parts 1+2)
#385751 - 04/02/20 05:05 PM


As you may, or may not be aware there's been a lot of Plug and Play activity over the last few months. Some of this will have been obvious from the 'new working machines' and 'promoted' parts of the whatnew, some will not have been as the systems have not yet been promoted and sit in the large 'new not working' sections despite some being mostly playable, or showing interesting things.

I've decided to start doing some short writeups (rather than just dumping everything in the 2020 write-up-in-progress post) showing some things that might have been missed, as well as talking about links between different systems etc. Nothing *too* technical, but maybe having some screens to show what's going on will help give people a better idea. A lot of what is being done today is planting seeds for progress over the next few years. (realistic and interesting targets keep the project healthy)

I've also linked a PayPal account to

“[email protected]”

so if anybody wants to donate (send money as a gift) towards picking up more of these things and getting them to where they stand the best chance of being dumped then that's the place to donate. I'm not setting targets, just saying that anything sent there will go towards picking up units in both the US and Europe and having them shipped to Sean or TeamEurope (depending on who is best positioned to handle them)

We (me, TeamEurope, ClawGrip, Peter) have pumped a lot of our own money into this over the year since the last time any donations were asked for and that has been supplemented by the odd unexpected & generous donation from others (Mooglyguy, Kev from FBN) but every now and again it helps to ask, because there are items we've having to skip on that ideally we'd be picking up. I do acknowledge this is a difficult time for everyone, and so might not be the best time to ask.

I've only got 2 parts up right now
https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/03/31/under-the-surface-part-1/
and
https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/01/under-the-surface-part-2/
(and in both instances I'd like to add some more screens - when you're dealing with collections with 100+ games in it can be quite time consuming)

Personally I find this to be a fascinating field of tech that is slowly being forgotten. A lot of is is disgusting rip-offs and bootlegs, or games that look like they should have come out 20 years earlier than they actually did, but it's all part of our history, and even when doing arcade work, the obscure, almost lost, forgotten games that were so often terrible was still where I found the most enjoyment in working on the emulation. Beyond a lot of the ugly rip-offs you can also find properly licensed IPs in these thins too, and those are important for anybody wanting to get a complete picture of how various IPs were used and licensed out, that side of things is culturally relevant beyond MAME itself and makes MAME a more useful research tool for anybody looking into them.

(unimportant addendum) Some shots can also be found in
https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020-fully-embracing-the-new-vision/
but I'm going to be covering those in these mini writeups too. The problem with dumping WIP shots in the yearly update is that I don't want to be adding screenshots of things that are in progress, because it's a waste of effort if I then have to replace the shots if I improve the emulation.



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 3) new [Re: Haze]
#385752 - 04/02/20 07:24 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/02/under-the-surface-part-3/

“[email protected]” for any PayPal donations towards buying more Plug and Plays.



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 3) new [Re: Haze]
#385753 - 04/02/20 08:50 PM


> https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/02/under-the-surface-part-3/
>
> “[email protected]” for any PayPal donations towards buying more Plug and
> Plays.

I already said this to you on Twitter, but I'm happy to donate my Spider-Man handheld thing and anything else I can scrounge up for the cost of shipping.

I'll probably go to the US post office next week (the whole pandemic makes it difficult for me to ship out stuff) so I'll let you know.



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 3) new [Re: Foxhack]
#385755 - 04/02/20 10:34 PM


> > https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/02/under-the-surface-part-3/
> >
> > “[email protected]” for any PayPal donations towards buying more Plug and
> > Plays.
>
> I already said this to you on Twitter, but I'm happy to donate my Spider-Man handheld
> thing and anything else I can scrounge up for the cost of shipping.
>
> I'll probably go to the US post office next week (the whole pandemic makes it
> difficult for me to ship out stuff) so I'll let you know.

yep, thank you. I'm going to see if I can make those Lexibook games show anything and will hold off picking that one up. Shipping anything at the moment is going to be difficult, but hopefully we'll be prepared when things do start to go back to normal.



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 4) new [Re: Haze]
#385764 - 04/03/20 04:37 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/03/under-the-surface-part-4/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 5) new [Re: Haze]
#385770 - 04/03/20 10:17 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/03/under-the-surface-part-5/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 6 - gun games, pinball games) new [Re: Haze]
#385824 - 04/07/20 01:12 AM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/06/under-the-surface-part-6/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (parts 7 - some musical stuff) new [Re: Haze]
#385839 - 04/07/20 07:26 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/07/under-the-surface-part-7/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 8 - NES derived bits) new [Re: Haze]
#385848 - 04/08/20 11:36 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/08/under-the-surface-part-8/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 9 - some gambling themed plug and plays) new [Re: Haze]
#385855 - 04/09/20 03:04 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/09/under-the-surface-part-9/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (parts 10 - misc) new [Re: Haze]
#385863 - 04/09/20 11:24 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/09/under-the-surface-part-10/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 3) new [Re: Haze]
#385864 - 04/09/20 11:40 PM




Good wip presentations for the various plug and play games/systems showing the wide diversities of the various games. iirc your first wip was one of the Taito packages back in early Jan 2018 and it has expanded since.



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 3) new [Re: gregf]
#385866 - 04/09/20 11:52 PM


> Good wip presentations for the various plug and play games/systems showing the wide
> diversities of the various games. iirc your first wip was one of the Taito packages
> back in early Jan 2018 and it has expanded since.

the interest in the XaviX stuff started with the Taito Nostalgia unit yes.

at the time the assumption was that it would probably be some kind of SNES clone with some swapped opcodes... how wrong we were.

for the Elan stuff the interest comes from a different Taito unit, the Radica one.

SunPlus I had a feeling was going to become one of the most relevant CPUs / drivers in MAME over the next few years (I said this somewhere about 2 years ago) so I decided to study that one too. I wanted to be able to get the JAKKS Namco stuff emulated as it continues the arcade story (still kinda disappointed the earlier Namco unit isn't SunPlus and probably undumpable with current knowledge as it seems to be ROM on the same die as the CPU)

VT1682 interest came from claims that the 'worst console ever' used it.. regular NES VT emulation from similar, even if in the end it wasn't really related aside from being the same manufacturer.



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (parts 11 -- some sports) new [Re: Haze]
#385873 - 04/10/20 02:23 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/10/under-the-surface-part-11/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (parts 12 - some senario stuff, inc The Apprentice) new [Re: Haze]
#385875 - 04/10/20 09:38 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/10/under-the-surface-part-12/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (parts 13 + 14 - sports) new [Re: Haze]
#385883 - 04/12/20 01:03 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/11/under-the-surface-part-13/
https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/12/under-the-surface-part-14/



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Re: Plug and Play news + donation feeler (part 15 - MGT multigame + others) new [Re: Haze]
#385885 - 04/12/20 05:53 PM


https://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2020/04/12/under-the-surface-part-15/


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