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DU Fundraiser: Rainbow Islands Extra Decapitation
#381172 - 02/20/19 10:03 AM






We are raising money to buy Rainbow Islands Extra to decap the C-Chip. If you want to help out click below!




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Update new [Re: Smitdogg]
#381287 - 02/28/19 09:57 AM


We couldn't get the chip from Guru so we still need to buy one. Click here to visit the DU donation page.



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Re: Update new [Re: Smitdogg]
#381361 - 03/04/19 01:36 PM


The Guru has a dummy spit, picks up his bat and ball, and goes home!

All chips below here have been acquired by me (Guru) and will be kept until I find a suitable person who can decap them, or Team CAPS0ff contacts me directly and asks me to send the chips they can handle. Note that would probably require additional funding from the emulation community because the decapping work is very time consuming and there are costs involved with consumables like acid etc etc
NOTE! This is a work-in-progress! This list is not complete.
More chips will be added in the future. Thanks for your support!

Update:
As of June 2015 things have changed slightly.
If a chip listed below is loose and/or d0onated junk specifically for decapping purposes, I am more than happy to send it off to be decapped.
In the past the chips listed above were sent off to be decapped and if that chip came from a working PCB then that PCB ended up scrap, especially if the chip was not something common like an EPROM-based microcontroller where a replacement new chip could be bought and programmed with the dump to get the PCB working again. That was my decision to sacrifice those PCBs for the good of MAME and I accepted it.
However, the difference now is if the wanted-to-be-decapped chip is on a working board, especially one that is rare and expensive and/or I care about it, I am no longer going to scrap it. Prices of PCBs have been going up slowly as collectors buy up stocks of rare and collectable games and far too many expensive items were lost in vain. I am no longer prepared to bear the cost of it and add yet another dead board to the already large pile of dead boards that have been sacrificed for the good of MAME.

This effectively means if you want that chip to decap it you will need to buy the working PCB from me at current market prices.
Items marked with (*) apply to the above statement.
Also note that most PCBs are already listed on my For Sale page anyway, so they are for sale to anyone, regardless of whether it has a chip on it of interest or not. Meaning if you want that PCB for any reason, you should just buy it like everyone else does.




* Dear Guru,

I paid for the working Rainbow Islands PCB and the working Rainbow Islands Extra PCBs that you are withholding from CAPSoff.

They were sent to you by me as a donation for the Decapping Project.

The required decaps are my gift to the emulation community, but also for because of my affiliation and in thanks to two rainbow girls.

Please forward my working Taito Rainbow Islands Extra PCB on to the MAME Decapping team.

I paid for it, it's mine, and you never had my permission to sell it and keep the funds.

It was sent to you as a donation to MAME, and to get decapped into the MAME binaries.

Regards,

Tingoes.


Edited by Speakeasy (03/04/19 04:20 PM)



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Re: Update new [Re: Speakeasy]
#381362 - 03/04/19 02:08 PM


Yeah, this isn't news, it was around that point he started threatening to get rid of things if I didn't have Trojans immediately available to run on them too. One in a list of about 40 reasons nobody wants to work with him any more.

Good luck convincing him to actually do anything with your PCB.

It's also amusing how much he brags about things and insults others in the process, when his skills, compared to a good number of the people we have involved now, aren't that special.

You don't see the rest of us bragging about it on the front page of a public site, but we bought a Cave 'non-working' SH3 PCB for $50, it had SDOJ labels on it so was probably an SDOJ at one point. We dumped it etc. but it turned out to be a plain old DDP DFK (FlashROM was a 100% match for the MAME dump, so my theory is it was an SDOJ originally, but the flash had died so somebody had tried to convert it to a DFK using the MAME set because no SDOJ ROMs are available for repair*, they failed, thought it was useless and sold it as an SDOJ since that's what it was in the first place thinking nobody would be able to repair it and find out about the failed conversion attempt) Still, $50 for a working DFK once repaired isn't too bad, even if it really should have been an SDOJ.

* I've had several people message me over time asking if these are available for PCB repair, because by the time they got to SDOJ it appears CAVE were using the bottom of the barrel flash even compared to usual low grade chips, which also lends to this theory. Unfortunately it was not possible to help them.


> The Guru has a dummy spit, picks up his bat and ball, and goes home!
>
> All chips below here have been acquired by me (Guru) and will be kept until I find a
> suitable person who can decap them, or Team CAPS0ff contacts me directly and asks me
> to send the chips they can handle. Note that would probably require additional
> funding from the emulation community because the decapping work is very time
> consuming and there are costs involved with consumables like acid etc etc
> NOTE! This is a work-in-progress! This list is not complete.
> More chips will be added in the future. Thanks for your support!
>
> Update:
> As of June 2015 things have changed slightly.
> If a chip listed below is loose and/or d0onated junk specifically for decapping
> purposes, I am more than happy to send it off to be decapped.
> In the past the chips listed above were sent off to be decapped and if that chip came
> from a working PCB then that PCB ended up scrap, especially if the chip was not
> something common like an EPROM-based microcontroller where a replacement new chip
> could be bought and programmed with the dump to get the PCB working again. That was
> my decision to sacrifice those PCBs for the good of MAME and I accepted it.
> However, the difference now is if the wanted-to-be-decapped chip is on a working
> board, especially one that is rare and expensive and/or I care about it, I am no
> longer going to scrap it. Prices of PCBs have been going up slowly as collectors buy
> up stocks of rare and collectable games and far too many expensive items were lost in
> vain. I am no longer prepared to bear the cost of it and add yet another dead board
> to the already large pile of dead boards that have been sacrificed for the good of
> MAME.
>
> This effectively means if you want that chip to decap it you will need to buy the
> working PCB from me at current market prices.
> Items marked with (*) apply to the above statement.
> Also note that most PCBs are already listed on my For Sale page anyway, so they are
> for sale to anyone, regardless of whether it has a chip on it of interest or not.
> Meaning if you want that PCB for any reason, you should just buy it like everyone
> else does.
>
>
> * Dear Guru,
>
> I paid for the working Rainbow Islands PCB and the working Rainbow Islands Extra PCBs
> that you are withholding from CAPSoff.
>
> They were sent to you by me as a donation for the Decapping Project.
>
> The required deacps are my gift to the emulation community, but also for because of
> my affiliation and thanks to two rainbow girls.
>
> Please forward my working copy Rainbow Islands Extra PCB on to the MAME Decapping
> team.
>
> I paid for it, it's mine, and you never has my permission to sell it and keep the
> funds.
>
> It was sent to you as a donation to MAME and to get decapped into the MAME binaries.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tingoes.



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Re: Update new [Re: Haze]
#381366 - 03/04/19 09:25 PM


You kind of did just brag about it on the front page of a public site but anyway it probably wasn't the rom going bad, it was probably something else they couldn't diagnose and they threw a hail mary guess on the roms.



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Re: Update new [Re: Smitdogg]
#381368 - 03/04/19 09:47 PM


> You kind of did just brag about it on the front page of a public site but anyway it
> probably wasn't the rom going bad, it was probably something else they couldn't
> diagnose and they threw a hail mary guess on the roms.

a random forum post that will be buried a day or two from now isn't the front page of my site..

either way, they'd clearly replaced the flash ROM with a new one, tried to solder it back on, and failed, once that was fixed it really didn't take much else to get it working again.

not sure why else you'd convert an SDOJ to DFK unless your board had failed and you had no other choice.



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Re: Update new [Re: Haze]
#381374 - 03/05/19 01:26 AM


Yeah they didn't have the software backed up and then had to rely on whatever was in mame to try to partially bail them out



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Result new [Re: Smitdogg]
#381394 - 03/06/19 07:01 AM


Thanks to all the donators. We did raise enough to buy it and in the 11th hour of the auction another DU member Kevin Eshbach offered to fund it so we got the Rainbow Islands Extra C-Chip plus we have the donation money for other boards. With it we've already picked up an undumped Sega System 16 FD1094A chip from a game I'll announce in a few days when it arrives, are bidding on an undumped Seibu board (completely unknown game) and have another game after that in the pipeline already as well. Thanks again to all the donators, lots of rare stuff coming.


Click here to visit the DU donation page



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Re: Result new [Re: Smitdogg]
#381402 - 03/06/19 11:44 PM




>so we got the Rainbow Islands Extra C-Chip

I hope that works out and pays off. iirc from reading capsoff's previous C-chip work, that work is much more involved compared to other chips.


>we've already picked up an undumped Sega System 16 FD1094A chip

If the Hitachi chip is still in working shape, that will be another game preserved.



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Re: Result new [Re: gregf]
#381403 - 03/06/19 11:53 PM


> > so we got the Rainbow Islands Extra C-Chip
>
> I hope that works out and pays off. iirc from reading capsoff's previous C-chip
> work, that work is much more involved compared to other chips.
>

definitely, it's the highest risk of the things done so far

not up there with the Gaelco stuff where there's basically a 50/50 chance of them dying, and almost guaranteed data corruption (which is why we often need a bunch of them) but the risk in both cases comes from different reasons.



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Re: Result new [Re: gregf]
#381405 - 03/07/19 01:47 AM


> > so we got the Rainbow Islands Extra C-Chip
>
> I hope that works out and pays off. iirc from reading capsoff's previous C-chip
> work, that work is much more involved compared to other chips.
>
>
> > we've already picked up an undumped Sega System 16 FD1094A chip
>
> If the Hitachi chip is still in working shape, that will be another game preserved.

It's a working board set


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