verygreen and f205v extracted the Tesla-hacked version of Speed Up (Spanish bootleg of Pole Position) out of their mame software which I guess is called Mars Madness
> verygreen and f205v extracted the Tesla-hacked version of Speed Up (Spanish bootleg > of Pole Position) out of their mame software which I guess is called Mars Madness
Is that playable while driving or only when the car is stopped? If they're doing that while driving, isn't that an accident waiting to happen? I don't even want to imagine the potential legal problems for Tesla in such a scenario...
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I don't own a Tesla but from the video it doesn't look like he was driving. I've never understood how the whole driverless vehicle scenario could ever outlive lawsuits.
> I don't own a Tesla but from the video it doesn't look like he was driving. I've > never understood how the whole driverless vehicle scenario could ever outlive > lawsuits.
Not only that. Just think of the hackers from thousands of miles away ramming the cars into one another ...
Every troll and terrorist with a grudge salivates at the thought.
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> > verygreen and f205v extracted the Tesla-hacked version of Speed Up (Spanish bootleg > > of Pole Position) out of their mame software which I guess is called Mars Madness > > Is that playable while driving or only when the car is stopped? If they're doing that > while driving, isn't that an accident waiting to happen? I don't even want to imagine > the potential legal problems for Tesla in such a scenario...
Quote: Pole Position’s controls will apparently be linked to the Tesla’s actual steering wheel — while the vehicle is stopped, Musk made clear. It goes without saying, but no one should be messing around with any of this Easter egg stuff when behind the wheel of a moving car.
> Atari didn't make Pole Position in the first place.
The Tesla also includes ROM sets for Asteroids, Centipede, Millipede, Lunar Lander, and a bunch of others.
Based on the fact that in one of the videos of the easter egg, the owner taps on a button with a clear and obvious Atari logo (including the text "ATARI" beneath it), I strongly suspect that Tesla did some sort of hush-hush licensing deal with the rights-holders to Atari's back catalogue for this.
> > Atari didn't make Pole Position in the first place. > > The Tesla also includes ROM sets for Asteroids, Centipede, Millipede, Lunar Lander, > and a bunch of others. > > Based on the fact that in one of the videos of the easter egg, the owner taps on a > button with a clear and obvious Atari logo (including the text "ATARI" beneath it), I > strongly suspect that Tesla did some sort of hush-hush licensing deal with the > rights-holders to Atari's back catalogue for this.
Whoever owns all the rights to those games has no problem whoring them out to whoever wants to pay them. Just go to a Walmart and check out the Blast! systems by AtGames, or the dozens of Atari Flashback systems they've released.
> > > Atari didn't make Pole Position in the first place. > > > > The Tesla also includes ROM sets for Asteroids, Centipede, Millipede, Lunar Lander, > > and a bunch of others. > > > > Based on the fact that in one of the videos of the easter egg, the owner taps on a > > button with a clear and obvious Atari logo (including the text "ATARI" beneath it), > I > > strongly suspect that Tesla did some sort of hush-hush licensing deal with the > > rights-holders to Atari's back catalogue for this. > > Whoever owns all the rights to those games has no problem whoring them out to whoever > wants to pay them. Just go to a Walmart and check out the Blast! systems by AtGames, > or the dozens of Atari Flashback systems they've released. > > I'm sure they accepted Musk's money just fine.
That doesn't really explain why they'd use a hacked up bootleg version tho
> No worries, the Easter-eggs menu is only accessible when car is in park.
Yup. I've now played Mars Madness both in unmodified current MAME (Tesla uses 0.200, so good for them for being reasonably up to date) and on a Tesla Model 3. The sensitivity on the steering wheel is so high in the Tesla that I did better with the keyboard on normal MAME.
> I wonder if Tesla is in compliance with the GPL in terms of any changes they made to > MAME...
They don't need to be.
I'm not sure if you're aware of this or not, but in the event that you're not: Only certain files in the MAME codebase are licensed under the GNU GPL 2.0. Other files - the majority of files including the core - are licensed under BSD 3-clause, which specifically permits commercial use without the publication of changes.
A detailed look at the codebase indicates that all of the source files associated with the drivers that Tesla are using (the Asteroids driver, the Centipede driver, and the Pole Position driver), and all of the devices used by the specific sets that Tesla are including, are licensed under BSD 3-clause.
Moreover, nowhere do they show a MAME logo, nor do they use the MAME trademark to promote their product (a car). Therefore, Tesla are 100% in the legal clear, at least as far as any possible involvement of the MAME team.
Having said that, it would certainly be a nice gesture if Elon Musk would kick down even a relatively tiny amount towards the Dumping Union as thanks for the part MAME has played in publicity the Tesla has gotten over its easter eggs. I even pointed out as much on Twitter. I sincerely doubt I'll get a response, let alone an affirmative one, but I figured I would make the tweet for laughs anyway.
> > That doesn't really explain why they'd use a hacked up bootleg version tho > > And if you license a game, are you legally entitled to all the bootleg derivatives of > said game?
No. Bootlegs are unauthorised derivative works, and can't be legally distributed at all. The only way to get a license for a bootleg would be to get the copyright holder and the bootlegger to come to an agreement, and then make a deal with both of them.
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