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DU: Is that your first DDR game or are you just happy to see Mickey
#379093 - 10/22/18 12:59 AM





ClawGrip got DDR Disney Mix and My First DDR






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTmwcrRqufI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQ0blBrgHaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd720iEALBI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uVYhKgvgBU



Also Fredric Sjöholm sent us a dump of Soldier Girl Amazon (Tecfri version)






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Re: DU: Is that your first DDR game or are you just happy to see Mickey new [Re: Smitdogg]
#379094 - 10/22/18 02:13 AM


> ClawGrip got DDR Disney Mix and My First DDR

... I've been trying to get these (and DDR Strawberry Shortcake) for the past five years because curiosity kept getting the best of me. But dang...

DDR Disney Mix is exactly like the crappy DDR pirate original pads you can buy at a mall. It even uses generic Famiclone pirate game sound effects. Haze mentioned that Famiclone-based games are much more advanced now, but I seriously wouldn't be surprised if this game ended up being created by a Chinese Famiclone original game developer and it had an NES on a chip inside of it.

I'm looking forward to finding out what makes these tick.



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Re: DU: Is that your first DDR game new [Re: Smitdogg]
#379097 - 10/22/18 03:18 AM




>ClawGrip got DDR Disney Mix and My First DDR

I was first guessing these were part of the Konami System 573 ( src/mame/drivers/ksys573.cpp ) until seeing photo images. Now if only that Drum Mania can be fixed to working shape. ;-)



>Also Fredric Sjöholm sent us a dump of Soldier Girl Amazon (Tecfri version)

I didn't know there were lots of Tecfri versions still needing to be found.

https://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index.php?title=Undumped#Tecfri



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Re: DU: Is that your first DDR game or are you just happy to see Mickey new [Re: Foxhack]
#379100 - 10/22/18 09:43 AM


DDR Strawberry Shortcake seems to run on the same hardware as DDR Disney Mix, and it is easy to get one on eBay...

> > ClawGrip got DDR Disney Mix and My First DDR
>
> ... I've been trying to get these (and DDR Strawberry Shortcake) for the past five
> years because curiosity kept getting the best of me. But dang...
>
> DDR Disney Mix is exactly like the crappy DDR pirate original pads you can buy at a
> mall. It even uses generic Famiclone pirate game sound effects. Haze mentioned that
> Famiclone-based games are much more advanced now, but I seriously wouldn't be
> surprised if this game ended up being created by a Chinese Famiclone original game
> developer and it had an NES on a chip inside of it.
>
> I'm looking forward to finding out what makes these tick.



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Re: DU: Is that your first DDR game or are you just happy to see Mickey new [Re: ClawGrip]
#379101 - 10/22/18 11:36 AM


> DDR Strawberry Shortcake seems to run on the same hardware as DDR Disney Mix, and it
> is easy to get one on eBay...
>
> > > ClawGrip got DDR Disney Mix and My First DDR
> >
> > ... I've been trying to get these (and DDR Strawberry Shortcake) for the past five
> > years because curiosity kept getting the best of me. But dang...
> >
> > DDR Disney Mix is exactly like the crappy DDR pirate original pads you can buy at a
> > mall. It even uses generic Famiclone pirate game sound effects. Haze mentioned that
> > Famiclone-based games are much more advanced now, but I seriously wouldn't be
> > surprised if this game ended up being created by a Chinese Famiclone original game
> > developer and it had an NES on a chip inside of it.
> >
> > I'm looking forward to finding out what makes these tick.

It's by Majesco (who did a lot of work with Sega) but Majesco made the following TV Game too which is clearly NES based
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApEevjHJ2dM

The same version of Frogger also ended up in the officially licensed 'vgtablet' (doesn't work quite correctly at the moment due to screen timing)



So Konami already licensed out their Frogger IP to Majesco for use on NES based ones.

So yeah it's probably one of the NES-VT things as Konami clearly had no problem giving official licenses to Famiclone manufacturers.

Small chance (0.01%) of it being a Sega derived system with modified sound, but really looks and sounds more like one of the 'NES + Extra Colours' setups and Majesco's TV game tech of choice appears to have been NES VT / Onebus.

Majesco made this too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx5_qBAQd58
which again sounds like a NES.

It's kinda funny seeing official products on Famiclone hardware, especially since there was no Nintendo involvement, you would have thought the big name companies would steer clear.

No matter how legally aggressive Nintendo is we've never seen meaningful action against Famiclones, you can still buy a ton of NES based bootlegs on the high street in big name stores, often themed as things like mini-arcade machines, often with actual reskinned bootleg Nintendo games.

Note, they'll likely be 'glob' logic. If you're lucky there will be some pads resembling ROM pinout that you can solder too, but in a lot of cases you'll be having to work out pinouts and going straight onto tiny PCB traces.



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emulation pics new [Re: Smitdogg]
#379502 - 11/11/18 09:22 PM











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Re: emulation pics new [Re: Smitdogg]
#379507 - 11/12/18 01:02 AM


If you're able to dump these you should get in touch with Frank Cifaldi: https://twitter.com/frankcifaldi/status/1059927031226413057



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emulation video new [Re: Smitdogg]
#379508 - 11/12/18 01:10 AM


https://youtu.be/UxDdLoq6LmA

I think it's missing a few PCM sounds (the VT chipset can do PCM) but yeah.. it runs, and yeah, it's an officially licensed Disney / Konami game running on bootleg NES hardware.



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Re: emulation video new [Re: Haze]
#379510 - 11/12/18 03:04 AM


NES hardware is probably the most loved of all time, the sounds are immediately cool upon format conversion, probably profitable choice to rip off



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Re: emulation video new [Re: Smitdogg]
#379512 - 11/12/18 03:19 AM


> NES hardware is probably the most loved of all time, the sounds are immediately cool
> upon format conversion, probably profitable choice to rip off

yeah, it's well done, just interesting to see when you consider that the hardware is just the same thing as all those multi-game NES bootlegs are running on.

The 'My First DDR' thing is probably Sunplus (vii.cpp) or something newer (maybe the Hyperscan hardware) as there are no SSD or XaviX logos.

ShouTime has picked up a DDR TV Game for Peter that was released in Japan and does use XaviX tho

So the license got around :-) It's fun discovering all these things nobody bothered to look into / emulate before.



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Re: emulation video new [Re: Haze]
#379534 - 11/12/18 10:58 PM


> https://youtu.be/UxDdLoq6LmA
>
> I think it's missing a few PCM sounds (the VT chipset can do PCM) but yeah.. it runs,
> and yeah, it's an officially licensed Disney / Konami game running on bootleg NES
> hardware.

I continue to say, some of those sound effects are outright stolen from other multicart games.


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