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Apple II goodness awaits
#360947 - 12/05/16 11:21 PM



I am an IBM'er myself, but good to see Apple II diskettes being preserved properly by 4 AM and others.

Take a look at twitter update.



Someone here better get ready to do some serious Apple II MAME source hashfile software list updating.





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Moved this to news board (nt) new [Re: gregf]
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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: gregf]
#361322 - 12/17/16 02:41 AM


> I am an IBM'er myself, but good to see Apple II diskettes being preserved properly
> by 4 AM and others.

WOW, what a great collection. Sammy Lightfoot, Sneakers, Space Eggs, Bandits, Snack Attack .... brought tears to my eyes.

Will be great to preserve more original (non-cracked) disks.



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Moose]
#361331 - 12/17/16 05:46 AM


So long as they're still able to be read...being floppies & all...

I hope so though...Brings back memories of Locksmith, a box of blank Dysan or Verbatim & watching late nite TV while they burn, byte by byte...



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Bad A Billy]
#361334 - 12/17/16 06:51 AM


> So long as they're still able to be read...being floppies & all...
>
> I hope so though...Brings back memories of Locksmith, a box of blank Dysan or
> Verbatim & watching late nite TV while they burn, byte by byte...

I've seen that user's posts about disk dumping before, it's glorious.

Also: https://twitter.com/a2_4am/status/809472779473010688 - Some have been saved (or cracked) already!



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Bad A Billy]
#361335 - 12/17/16 07:11 AM


> So long as they're still able to be read...being floppies & all...
>
> I hope so though...Brings back memories of Locksmith, a box of blank Dysan or
> Verbatim & watching late nite TV while they burn, byte by byte...

Haha same here! Locksmith and Copy II Plus, but yeah mostly Locksmith. Also we didn't watch, we had to participate... we only had one Disk ][ drive for many years, so we'd spend our evenings swapping out the master and target disks, over and over...



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Moose]
#361336 - 12/17/16 07:13 AM


> > I am an IBM'er myself, but good to see Apple II diskettes being preserved properly
> > by 4 AM and others.
>
> WOW, what a great collection. Sammy Lightfoot, Sneakers, Space Eggs, Bandits, Snack
> Attack .... brought teas to my eyes.
>
> Will be great to preserve more original (non-cracked) disks.

You and me both, Moose. I spent more hours than anyone should on each of those games - especially Bandits, one of my all-time faves.



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Shoegazr]
#361356 - 12/18/16 02:46 AM



> Haha same here! Locksmith and Copy II Plus, but yeah mostly Locksmith. Also we didn't
> watch, we had to participate... we only had one Disk ][ drive for many years, so we'd
> spend our evenings swapping out the master and target disks, over and over...

LOL, yes, me too Shoe .... I only had one disk drive .... for the 1st 3 months after purchasing my A][ clone, I only had tape - via radio cassette recorder (which still works and is here in a cupboard somewhere) - and had to save / load everything from tape. A friend loaned me his disk drive several times, and I spent hours - probably most of a weekend at a time - reading machine code games off disk and saving them to tape and testing them. Got lots of the simpler machine code games to work - Apple Panic, Invaders, etc, but some - the multi-loaders - were more complex to get working. Also stored lots of basic programs on tapes.

Even with one disk drive it was so much better than tape. IIRC, it cost me $650 for a second hand Apple ][ clone 5.25 inch drive back in early-mid 1983. My second hand clone Apple ][ cost me about the same a few months earlier. But swapping disks back and forth for ages, watching the HEX codes slowly dab across the screen, hoping it would work at the end ....

AF BA 6B 4C ......

Go Locksmith Go !!!

Ahhhh, great fun !



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Foxhack]
#361357 - 12/18/16 03:09 AM


> > So long as they're still able to be read...being floppies & all...
> >
> > I hope so though...Brings back memories of Locksmith, a box of blank Dysan or
> > Verbatim & watching late nite TV while they burn, byte by byte...
>
> I've seen that user's posts about disk dumping before, it's glorious.
>
> Also: https://twitter.com/a2_4am/status/809472779473010688 - Some have been saved (or
> cracked) already!

Great news ... love reading about this kind of thing ... Just really, really, really wish I was helping to archive / preserve these disks ... SST, ADT, testing, trying different methods when others didn't work, .... all great fun.



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Shoegazr]
#361369 - 12/18/16 09:12 AM


> > So long as they're still able to be read...being floppies & all...
> >
> > I hope so though...Brings back memories of Locksmith, a box of blank Dysan or
> > Verbatim & watching late nite TV while they burn, byte by byte...
>
> Haha same here! Locksmith and Copy II Plus, but yeah mostly Locksmith. Also we didn't
> watch, we had to participate... we only had one Disk ][ drive for many years, so we'd
> spend our evenings swapping out the master and target disks, over and over...

I remember both of those programs. I came in late to the game in actually owning an Apple ][ clone (Cheap Laser 3000- cheap for a reason as it wasn't fully compatible) but my friends and I would copy stuff at the library on their Apple computers.



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Moose]
#361371 - 12/18/16 09:20 AM



>>I am an IBM'er myself, but good to see Apple II diskettes being preserved properly
>>by 4 AM and others.

>WOW, what a great collection. Sammy Lightfoot, Sneakers, Space Eggs, Bandits, Snack Attack
>.... brought tears to my eyes. Will be great to preserve more original (non-cracked) disks.

4AM and a couple others are doing it better these days compared to some previous Apple II attempts. I am looking forward to any future efforts on IBM DOS side of getting cracks done similar to what 4AM is doing on Apple II side.



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Moose]
#361451 - 12/20/16 01:07 AM


> Even with one disk drive it was so much better than tape. IIRC, it cost me $650 for a second hand Apple ][ clone 5.25 inch drive back in early-mid 1983. My second hand clone Apple ][ cost me about the same a few months earlier. But swapping disks back and forth for ages, watching the HEX codes slowly dab across the screen, hoping it would work at the end ....

> AF BA 6B 4C ......
>
> Go Locksmith Go !!!
>
> Ahhhh, great fun !


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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: Traso]
#361499 - 12/20/16 06:25 PM


I reaaly like the Apple II platform and its games. Karateka and Sabotage were my favorites and still are! Too bad that they are not in that picture though.



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: R.Coltrane]
#361503 - 12/20/16 09:25 PM



>Karateka and Sabotage were my favorites and still are! Too bad that they are not in that
>picture though.

They are supported, but...

--
hash/apple2.xml

software name="karateka" karateka_s1 (brutal deluxe crack).dsk

software name="sabotage" sabotage.dsk
-

...I'd still prefer 4AM and company doing the work. I thought 4AM did Karateka earlier, but not the case.



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: gregf]
#361505 - 12/20/16 10:29 PM


> ...I'd still prefer 4AM and company doing the work. I thought 4AM did Karateka
> earlier, but not the case.

I have an original Karateka floppy (among many, many other originals). It's a cool "flippy disk" where the reverse side cleverly plays the game as if through a mirror. I'm sure 4AM will preserve that side too.



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Re: Apple II goodness awaits new [Re: gregf]
#362968 - 01/27/17 01:51 AM



Source updates now online for viewing any changes/fixes.

https://github.com/a2-4am

https://github.com/a2-4am/passport


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