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How to cope with the inevitable Trump Presidency?
#359434 - 10/06/16 08:26 AM


Yeah. I have my doubts about him, and I worry about the future of this country. But I also worry about this country in regards to those that hate him, and for how they will react. I made the topic titled (something along the lines of) "Trump Wins! Looting and rioting on an unprecedented scale!"

Well, I can recall how conservatives worried about Obama, yet, nothing much came of it... It wasn't as bad as everyone whining about it said it would be. Even I didn't like the idea of Obama being president. But now that's it's all said and done, I don't see what the big deal was. One fear was that he'd "take our precious guns", and that resulted in record guns sales. AND, how many Presidents have ever kept their campaign promises? I doubt Trump will deport that many "illegals", or even Muslims, if any at all. He might build a wall (or have a wall built, it won't be him out there alone on a ladder laying brick -lol), but I'm sure it'll be 2 or 3 years after he's elected before any work ever starts on it.

I do worry about relations with other countries, and us going to war (again). When I woke up today, the first thing I said was; "They want Trump for president." "They" being the real people in control. A president is nothing more than a puppet, a front-man that gives us the illusion of someONE in the seat of authority, and that gives us the illusion of stability. Just about everything is propaganda, and it's hard to know what to trust and believe.

I wouldn't worry too much about civilization though. They need their people to keep paying taxes, to keep feeding the war machine.


At any rate, he's either going to be great, or absolutely terrible. And I'd gauge that by the country staying safe, or us getting bombed by whoever he manages to piss off.

Time will tell.

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Re: How to cope with the inevitable Trump Presidency? new [Re: Tomu Breidah]
#359458 - 10/06/16 07:12 PM


Comparing him to Obama, I don't even know where to begin with that. But just taking him today... He has already done more social destruction than we have ever seen. He has already brought racism to the forefront and given it some sort of value. If he becomes president then little kids will be looking at him as someone they look up to. You can't possibly think any of this is acceptable. I don't know what to say. A country 100% immigrants with a president who's main goal is to deport and block them? He literally made fun of a disabled person on stage for the camera! That is not acceptable! That is who little kids will look up to. The social damage alone, a lot of which he has already done and is irreversible, I don't know what to tell you. Either you've been living under a rock or, I don't know. There's way more on the table now than 2008.

He literally asked 3 times in a meeting why we can't use nukes. Think about that. Not only does he not understand the value of millions of lives but, I, I don't know what to tell you. I shouldn't have to type this. Slip back under the rock or whatever.



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Re: How to cope with the inevitable Trump Presidency? new [Re: Tomu Breidah]
#359496 - 10/07/16 05:38 PM


I tend to disagree with you that Trump will end up being president, but I've been wrong before and I will undoubtedly be wrong again, so who the hell knows.

What I do agree with is the overall point of your post, and I'm kind of curious about that myself.

Most of the people that I've talked to who literally don't want to vote for Trump but are anyway because "it will shake up the system", they seem to have this idea in their heads that Trump will be completely toothless in terms of the global stage.

It seems to me like they're projecting onto their favored candidate the sort of attributes that they had hoped would apply to Obama: That he'd be ineffectual and unable to do anything. They had hoped, and were right, that ultimately his hands would be tied thanks to the checks-and-balances system that's in place, he can't just railroad new laws through the system because it's still down to the people in The House and Congress to approve that legislation.

So to some extent, I agree with them, but at the same time, it's easy to overlook just how much actual power the POTUS has. He's the guy meeting with delegates from other countries, he's the guy engaging in negotiations when it comes to treaties and such. The POTUS is ultimately the face of the country when it comes to negotiations with other countries, and I seriously worry about what Trump would end up bringing to the table in such situations. Hillary is no prize, to say the least, but it seems like she wouldn't let her own hubris run the show, whereas The Donald seems more like me than any real presidential candidate, and that should be pretty fucking alarming.

I don't think that it's going to be the end of the world no matter whether it's Hillary or Trump that ends up winning the election, but it seems to me that Trump is liable to get the USA in more shit than it should really have to deal with. It's shitty that the election has come down to "who will fuck up the USA the least," but that seems to me the way it is.



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#359650 - 10/14/16 03:47 PM


> When I
> woke up today, the first thing I said was; "They want Trump for president." "They"
> being the real people in control.


I'm basing this thought on the fact that I just can't see how any rational, sensible human being can see Hillary as being a legitimate, electable candidate. But it's also possible that the government (haha) has gotten so bold, that they don't care. The news will just TELL you Hillary has about 50% +/- of the votes, when she probably has way way less than that.

Trump could actually win (in how people actually vote).... But the news, the MSM, will just SAY that Hillary won. That's the neat thing about secret ballots. Those in control can just say that "Oh, looks like just a little bit more people voted for our person."


Yeah. I admit I'm flip-flopping on this. I'm convinced of the corruption surrounding Clinton. While with Trump, I can only have doubts.



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Re: How to cope with the inevitable Trump Presidency? new [Re: Tomu Breidah]
#359704 - 10/17/16 06:29 AM


I was talking with my brother yesterday, and he said he was off to buy a 9-mil - before either the burning of L.A. - or the gun restriction that will happen under Hillary.

It's funny how people still think that one or the other is a lesser evil, and how voting for an alternative party would matter. Ya all take this too seriously - and in some ways not seriously enough.

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Re: How to cope with the inevitable Trump Presidency? new [Re: Tomu Breidah]
#359749 - 10/19/16 11:19 PM


I'm currently 83.9% sure we won't have to worry about it. That said, if it happened, it won't affect me much because I'm an educated, upper middle class, white guy with a (foreign born) white wife and a really white looking (blonde haired, blue eyed, fair skin) toddler. However, I can see how Trump's stated policies could have a profoundly negative effect on the Latinos and Muslims I know. As an example, I don't see how you could possibly use a deportation force to round up and deport 11+ million people in 18 months without also detaining 10's of thousands of American citizens until they prove they're legal. Suspicion will be cast on anyone that looks Latino and/or "non-American". In 6 years, I don't want to be reading El Diario de Ana Francisco, the writings of a natural born US citizen who had to live in an attic for 4 years with her illegal alien parents waiting for the Trump's term to end. Trump has never walked back his plan to do this, either because he doesn't want to lose the support of those that got on the train because of it or because that's what he's actually going to do.

As for the Muslims, "calling for a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on" (still on his site) casts every member of that religion as someone Americans should be suspicious of. If we want to catch radical Islamists in the US, the best way to do that will be with help from the Muslim community. If we make them a secondary class of citizens, the odds that they help out are probably lower than the odds of Trump running a successful casino.

Also, if he did decide to use his presidential authority to tear up trade deals and impose the max 15% tariffs then start trade wars with Mexico and/or China, the people that really get fucked are those on the lower ends of the wage scales. Fruits, vegetables and a whole crap load of consumer goods instantly become more expensive without anything automagicially being manufactured and/or grown in the US right away to replace them. It would take time to replace what we buy from China and Mexico but while we wait, that stuff just costs more, making those that make the least bear the brunt. One example is avocados, which I bring up because I fucking love guacamole. 2/3 of our avocados come from Mexico, which is now tariff free due to NAFTA. Tear up NAFTA, and the 29% tariff for most favored trade nations on avocados would apply, at a minimum. Now, 2/3 of our avocado supply costs at least 29% more, raising the average price of avocados to consumers. They probably couldn't replace that much avocado production in California and Florida (or anywhere close to it), so the price is just going to be higher forever. If Trump were to also slap a 15% tariff on top of that, well America's favorite Superbowl dip just got a lot more fucking expensive. The same thing applies to other produce, like mangoes, lettuce, tomatoes (just off the top of my head). Since a higher percentage of income is spent on food by lower income people than any other income group, they're gettin' grabbed by the pussy whether they like it or not.
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Re: How to cope with the inevitable Trump Presidency? new [Re: Gor]
#359764 - 10/20/16 04:05 AM


> Since a higher percentage of income is spent on food by lower income people than any other income group, they're gettin' grabbed by the pussy whether they like it or not.
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-squints humourously- Yeah, I guess they would. I rarely eat any of that stuff, so it wouldn't directly affect me. The poor and the disabled typically eat worse than that, so they won't much be affected, either.

All muslims are suspect, as anyone of any faith, but more so. If they had any nuts, they would relinquish Islam.



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Re: How to cope with the inevitable Trump Presidency? new [Re: Robbbert]
#359765 - 10/20/16 04:08 AM



> It's funny how Americans act when there's a mass shooting...
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> 1. Blame someone else (doesn't help)
> 2. Pray (really doesn't help)
> 3. Go out and buy a few more guns (really really doesn't help).


My brother likes guns a decent bit, but not like 'let's go shooting this weekend', or even once a month. Probably less than that. He's just being pragmatic. But, yeah, lots of people do as you say.



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Re: How to cope with the inevitable Trump Presidency? new [Re: Traso]
#359930 - 10/25/16 10:45 PM


So then seems Trumps gonna lose now that more of his unsavory past has come to light, so is it panic over now..??



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