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The Singularity? Why popcul is decades behind.....
#358827 - 09/20/16 03:59 AM


"The Singularity is Vernor Vinge’s term, though Kurzweil gives little room to this fact, referring to Vinge as a San Diego mathematician. Vernor introduced it in the 1980s, though I can recall talking to him about such possibilities when we met in graduate school at UC San Diego in the mid-1960s."


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Re: The Singularity? Why popcul is decades behind..... new [Re: Traso]
#358828 - 09/20/16 04:54 AM


Read "Our Final Invention" for the other side of the debate:

https://www.amazon.com/Our-Final-Inventi...final+invention



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Re: The Singularity? Why popcul is decades behind..... new [Re: Traso]
#358858 - 09/21/16 06:14 AM


> "The Singularity is Vernor Vinge’s term, though Kurzweil gives little room to this
> fact,

Yeah, I've been "struggling" through Kurzweil's book on and off for about 9 months now .... it's been a real struggle because he makes so many extremely optimistic predictions and also because he repeats himself over and over and over again. A summarised version could probably have had ALL of the content and ALL of the detail in less than 10 pages.

Even though I find his extremely optimistic timescales and predictions very difficult to accept, seismic shifts definitely seem to be coming.



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Check out THE MEDUSA CHRONICLES.... new [Re: DiodeDude]
#358881 - 09/21/16 09:02 PM


Stephen Baxter's and Alastair Reynolds' recent play-around in one of Clarke's old story-worlds.

In this circumstance, it was simply human xenophobia, and the inability or something of the Machines to directly appeal to that. Just be homies.....but no.....



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Re: The Singularity? Why popcul is decades behind..... new [Re: Moose]
#358882 - 09/21/16 09:07 PM


> Yeah, I've been "struggling" through Kurzweil's book on and off for about 9 months now .... it's been a real struggle because he makes so many extremely optimistic predictions and also because he repeats himself over and over and over again. A summarised version could probably have had ALL of the content and ALL of the detail in less than 10 pages.

> Even though I find his extremely optimistic timescales and predictions very difficult to accept, seismic shifts definitely seem to be coming.



Kurzweil is a footnote in the abstracted context, that I included to further illustrate why the idea of the Singularity is so old.

I think much more than what Kurzweil says will happen can happen. The realm of physical possibility is only over-shadowed by what human nature will allow. So I think at least half of Kurzweil's claims will emerge in the suggested time....many of the other things won't be relevant or will get superceded by other things.



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