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How the DEA skates around ever admitting they were wrong about marijuana
#357605 - 08/12/16 12:49 AM


They don't immediately accept defeat and admit they were shitheads, they keep it classified for now but now will let outsiders look for medicinal purposes (which will take no longer than the first study, results by the end of the year). Then watch for them to make a statement along the lines of "well, WE never found a medicinal benefit, so you can't blame us". Why else ON EARTH would pharma companies work all this time lobbying to keep it illegal? Because it will kill half the prescriptions in the US (or more). We've got people who can't get a job outside of fast food because of drug charges and every president of the US in our lifetime has admitted to have smoked it. Fucking retards, I hate the fucking government. I hate them.



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Re: How the DEA skates around ever admitting they were wrong about marijuana new [Re: Smitdogg]
#357614 - 08/12/16 02:20 AM


> Fucking retards, I hate the fucking government. I hate them.

Yep. Throughout the history of mankind, more human rights abuses were perpetrated by governments than by any corporation or individual (not counting those corporations which used governments as their instrument of power, but then again, government is still in the equation).

Truly, how many peoples lives were absolutely destroyed by the draconian persecution of marijuana and its users. People rot in jail beside murderers and rapists for toking weed.

While many people think the Libertarians, and their minimal government platforms, are crazy crackpot wackos... they are probably the only ones who've got it right.







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Re: How the DEA skates around ever admitting they were wrong about marijuana new [Re: Smitdogg]
#357616 - 08/12/16 02:32 AM


I'm convinced that this is a strategic move by the Obama administration designed to drive some of Trump's likely voters to Gary Johnson. Then, as it nears election day, Hillary will announce that when she's elected, she'll change the classification of marijuana. This will pull some of those voters over into the Democrat camp.



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Re: How the DEA skates around ever admitting they were wrong about marijuana new [Re: GatKong]
#357618 - 08/12/16 02:41 AM


It would be nice if it were that simple everywhere but it isn't. Bernie had it right with health care. We can't (or at least I can't) argue that poor people and people with pre-existing diseases shouldn't be able to get health care. I think they should, I agree with Bernie. With that said, you also can't force that on companies that, the only reason they ever got into the business, was to be able to gamble on the same principles that all insurance companies in the US work on, so I don't know how it will play out in the US. For example an insurance company wouldn't sell fire insurance to someone on fire because it's guaranteed they would lose before money hits the table. Health care needs to be handled by government as far as I can see and everyone needs to be covered or the alternate is what exactly?

However if you take things to the point of free food and utilities how Jill Stein wants, that, I think is "too far" because I can tell you FOR SHIT SURE that there are tons of people out there in the US who will never work if they are given free food. And most people have to work for society to work. So the answer is not in 100%s like Johnson or Stein. Additionally Johnson doesn't have a strong enough personality to lead the US. But I do like him (and Stein). They deserve positions but not president.



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Resource-based economy obviates it all...... new [Re: Smitdogg]
#357629 - 08/12/16 08:36 AM


And full automation will support it. Soon.

And there will be full healthcare....but the best healthcare is health care - which the majority of people do not have.

As for DEA/ATF, etc......militant organisations don't apologise. Remember also most of them are christians......



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Re: How the DEA skates around ever admitting they were wrong about marijuana new [Re: Smitdogg]
#357636 - 08/12/16 11:33 AM


I think ALL parties and states will soon back weed, if for no better reason than to keep the masses under control. Stoners are less likely to revolt and more likely to accept their plight, and that will become more necessary as hope dims for so many.

Technological advancement necessitates socialism until the powers that be decide it's just better to gas most of us. I don't LIKE the idea of socialism, but once technology or even outsourcing eliminates most of the means people have of supporting themselves, what are you left with? Over the years, every time I bring this up there are immediate slams from people claiming that it'll never come to that, but it HAS come to that. Every time in my life that I've run to a career "safe haven" thinking it would never be replaced by technology, I've been surprised. I went into office work because I reasoned that secretaries would never be replaced; lo and behold, speech-to-text and email came along. Once AI advances far enough, machines will be programming themselves and even programmers and engineers won't be needed.

Outsourcing is a great business strategy in the short-term, but once all of the jobs are in other countries, who's going to buy the houses and products here? Not us.

The thing is, if you do make it possible for most of the population to forego working, they also forego social responsibility and massive overpopulation will result. If the only thing I had to think about was my next lay and the next bag of weed, I might be no different. Or would I? While it's true that many people would prefer a derelict lifestyle, I'd get burned out on that pretty quickly. I think most people want their lives to mean something and count for something.



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Re: How the DEA skates around ever admitting they were wrong about marijuana new [Re: Nightvoice]
#357695 - 08/14/16 12:13 AM


> If the only thing I had to think about was my next lay and the next bag of weed, I might be no different. Or would I? While it's true that many people would prefer a derelict lifestyle, I'd get burned out on that pretty quickly.


"It is, of course, entirely possible that real AIs will refuse to have anything to do with their human creators (or rather, perhaps, the human creators of their non-human creators), but assuming that they do - and the design of their software may be amenable to optimization in this regard - I would argue that it is quite possible they would agree to help further the aims of their source civilisation (a contention we'll return to shortly). At this point, regardless of whatever alterations humanity might impose on itself through genetic manipulation, humanity would no longer be a one-sentience-type species. The future of our species would affect, be affected by and coexist with the future of the AI life-forms we create."

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