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Of course you failed, Java.
#353427 - 04/24/16 11:58 PM


Does anyone else here have Java notify them of new versions, and then have the updater fail to download... every time?

Ialways need to go to java.com and download/update manually.



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: TriggerFin]
#353429 - 04/25/16 12:36 AM


> Does anyone else here have Java notify them of new versions, and then have the
> updater fail to download... every time?
>
> Ialways need to go to java.com and download/update manually.

Not just that, the updater tries to download a file... and it gives you a 404 error after hanging for five minutes, claiming it's downloading stuff, when it really isn't.



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: Foxhack]
#353432 - 04/25/16 01:53 AM


And when you install the POS, you have to edit the registry to get the control panel working again because the exe is in the wrong / different location.



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: redk9258]
#353435 - 04/25/16 03:37 AM


You're probably experiencing problems because there are two versions of the Java runtime (32-bit and 64-bit) and they install in different locations.

http://www.java.com/en/download/faq/java_win64bit.xml



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: TriggerFin]
#353446 - 04/25/16 07:03 AM


I dont have that problem because I am smart enough not to run that insecure junk on my PC



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: jonwil]
#353447 - 04/25/16 09:50 AM


> I dont have that problem because I am smart enough not to run that insecure junk on
> my PC

Everything is insecure. To not have anything insecure would be to disconnect from everything.



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: krick]
#353448 - 04/25/16 09:51 AM


Well, thanks for letting me know it isn't just me.



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: krick]
#353452 - 04/25/16 11:56 AM


It's because the file javacpl.exe that is located in...
C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_77\bin
...will be in a different folder next time I update it. For some reason the registry doesn't get updated to reflect the new path. Maybe new installs don't put an icon in the control panel?



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: TriggerFin]
#353456 - 04/25/16 01:52 PM


Yeah Windows and Office and Firefox and other things have security holes. But those are nowhere near as bad as what Java has. Not to mention the fact that the frequency of updates for Java is significantly worse than for other things like Windows.

About the only software out there that is worse than Java from a "risk of being infected" standpoint is Flash and if it wasn't for all sorts of video hosting sites, I would ditch Flash as well...

Oh and FYI, I actually know how to program in Java AND in Flash so I do know what I am talking about here

Edited by jonwil (04/25/16 02:05 PM)



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: redk9258]
#353461 - 04/25/16 03:48 PM


> It's because the file javacpl.exe that is located in...
> C:\Program Files (x86)\Java\jre1.8.0_77\bin
> ...will be in a different folder next time I update it. For some reason the registry
> doesn't get updated to reflect the new path. Maybe new installs don't put an icon in
> the control panel?

You know, I think the previous update to this one managed to download without incident, and this one, for the first time, told me I had old installs, and removed them on confirmation prior to installing. If those two things manage to get together, they might get it working.



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: TriggerFin]
#353488 - 04/25/16 11:37 PM


So I'm curious. If you go to the Windows Control Panel, do you have a Java icon? Does it function?



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Re: Of course you failed, Java. new [Re: jonwil]
#353499 - 04/26/16 04:51 AM


> Yeah Windows and Office and Firefox and other things have security holes. But those
> are nowhere near as bad as what Java has. Not to mention the fact that the frequency
> of updates for Java is significantly worse than for other things like Windows.

The Java runtime itself has a pretty good history in terms of security. It's the Java browser plugin that's the problem. Java Web Start applications and Java desktop applications aren't a problem in general. It's the applets embedded in web pages that you need to watch for.


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