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system11 got around 50 undumped TourVision carts
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348613 - 12/31/15 04:30 AM
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Awesome news and Awesome work system11
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348615 - 12/31/15 04:34 AM
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> system11 got around 50 undumped TourVision carts
A classic example of "sitting back and waiting for cool things to happen."
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348616 - 12/31/15 04:54 AM
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Hmm excuse the noob question but what kind of system is this? Tried to google it but not much info. Is it from Barcelona Spain?
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: joey35car]
#348617 - 12/31/15 04:55 AM
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TurboGrafx (how did they spell that?) 16 based.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348618 - 12/31/15 05:05 AM
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> TurboGrafx (how did they spell that?) 16 based.
yeah, they're pure TG16 / PCE games (same original game ROMs from the original factory etc.) rehoused in low-budget custom cartridges for a timer based PCE system.
there's nothing actually unique in the cartridges, no menu text, no menu graphics, just the stock PCE ROMs.
the cartridges are filled with some kind of epoxy substance, the edge connector is incompatible with a standard PCE, they run on a custom* (licensed?) motherboard made by a Spanish company.
The system has a timer and multi-slot support so you could cycle between a few games, there's no additional video display (just a timer / credit display?)
Really they're not THAT interesting, and are of debatable legality (the company that made them apparently claims they're legal, using original parts etc. but the developers of the various games claim they never licensed the games for use in this way)
* although system11 has said one of the boards is actually just a stock PCE board, with some bits replaced.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348620 - 12/31/15 05:08 AM
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> system11 got around 50 undumped TourVision carts
awesome stuff, system11. thanks!!
finally, there will be ARCADE Parasol Stars in MAME. 
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: abelenki]
#348624 - 12/31/15 05:37 AM
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> > system11 got around 50 undumped TourVision carts
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> awesome stuff, system11. thanks!!
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> finally, there will be ARCADE Parasol Stars in MAME.
there will be the PCE version with a silly timer circuit attached, you're far better off just running "MAME64 pce parasol", exact same code without a timer circuit resetting the game if you forget to press '5' every 5 minutes.
I still wonder if there wasn't a version hacked in Korea to actually leverage the credit system that already exists within the game code to produce a more 'arcade' like version.
The game was clearly built as an arcade title, even if it never existed as one officially.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Haze]
#348626 - 12/31/15 05:50 AM
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It would be much more interesting if they changed the software, yes I agree. Probably more interesting to viewers if mame was still arcade only as well.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348630 - 12/31/15 06:16 AM
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Thanks for the info Smitdogg. Oh and I love that MAME has both Arcade and MESS support.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: joey35car]
#348631 - 12/31/15 06:19 AM
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I'm not starting a queer debate, just saying it's now less exotic to "mame". So synsativ.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348635 - 12/31/15 08:28 AM
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47 carts just added to the source:
1943 Kai
After Burner
Armed-F
Ballistix
Be Ball
Chōzetsurinjin Beraboh Man
Bomberman
Chuka Taisen
Coryoon
Daisenpu
Dead Moon
Devil Crush
Dodge Ball
Dragon Spirit
Final Blaster
Final Match Tennis
Gunhed
Hana Taka Daka
Jinmu Densho
Kiki Kaikai
Legend of Hero Tonma
Mizubaku Daibouken Liquid Kids
Mr Heli
Ninja Ryukenden
Operation Wolf
Override
Pac-Land
PC Genjin Punkic Cyborg
Power Drift
Pro Yakyuu World Stadium '91
Psycho Chaser
Puzzle Boy
Raiden
R-Type II
Saiga No Nindou - Ninja Spirit
Salamander
Shinobi
Side Arms
Skweek
Son Son II
Tatsujin
Terra Cresta II
Toy Shop Boys
Veigues
Winning Shot
W-Ring
Xevious
A true Dumping Union effort. A member in Spain mentioned a shop or two had a collection of carts. System11 wanted them for his collection (already having picked up Devil Crush and a PCB elsewhere). So the member in Spain grabbed them and shipped them to system11 who paid for the whole lot!
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: BrianT]
#348637 - 12/31/15 10:22 AM
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> 47 carts just added to the source:
hmm, no Parasol Stars? i saw on the photo in the first message, there is a cart with hand-drawn text on it "Parasol Stars":
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: abelenki]
#348641 - 12/31/15 12:41 PM
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Sorry, in some cases the people in Spain couldn't read the title screens and made stuff up.
This one turned out to be Liquid Kids. Beraboh Man got turned into 'Super Foolist Man' which I'm particularly amused by.
The timer display in games is an actual pair of 8 digit LED displays on a metal bracket which connect via ribbon cable to the motherboard.
I need to play around with it some more, they do some interesting things like half muting the audio when not coined up, and when you coin the game and don't press start, you use left/right on the stick to select which game to play. What I don't understand is whether it will let you select a game again if you die, or if you're 'locked in' until the timer expires once a game has been selected and started. Does it even understand the concept of 'game over' and if not, what happens on Freeplay, do you need to wire a game switch button up?
I'm planning to write an article about the system over the next few days, I'll try to answer these questions.
I quite like it as it's tidier than hooking a PC Engine up to a JAMMA cab. If you get one though do remember to immediately remove the battery, they're all leaking now.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: system11]
#348643 - 12/31/15 02:33 PM
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First of all : 
So, Parasol Stars remains mystery - cursed arcade game 
P.S. I can hardly wait to play Skweek in MAME.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: system11]
#348647 - 12/31/15 03:56 PM
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> Sorry, in some cases the people in Spain couldn't read the title screens and made
> stuff up.
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> This one turned out to be Liquid Kids. Beraboh Man got turned into 'Super Foolist
> Man' which I'm particularly amused by.
thanks for the info.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Haze]
#348654 - 12/31/15 07:45 PM
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> > > system11 got around 50 undumped TourVision carts
> >
> > awesome stuff, system11. thanks!!
> >
> > finally, there will be ARCADE Parasol Stars in MAME.
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> there will be the PCE version with a silly timer circuit attached, you're far better
> off just running "MAME64 pce parasol", exact same code without a timer circuit
> resetting the game if you forget to press '5' every 5 minutes.
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> I still wonder if there wasn't a version hacked in Korea to actually leverage the
> credit system that already exists within the game code to produce a more 'arcade'
> like version.
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> The game was clearly built as an arcade title, even if it never existed as one
> officially.
If there's any edits you'd like me to make to the Parasol Stars entry, please let me know. It's been a real pain in the butt thus far.
http://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index.php?title=Parasol_Stars
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
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#348655 - 12/31/15 07:47 PM
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: joey35car]
#348657 - 12/31/15 08:09 PM
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348659 - 12/31/15 08:58 PM
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Found a new (older) BIOS too - just dumped it.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: BrianT]
#348661 - 12/31/15 10:34 PM
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>A true Dumping Union effort. A member in Spain mentioned a shop or two had a collection
>of carts. System11 wanted them for his collection (already having picked up Devil Crash
>and a PCB elsewhere). So the member in Spain grabbed them and shipped them to system11
>who paid for the whole lot!
That would be something if same thing could ever happen with remaining Deco cassette games needing to be found and preserved.
Thanks to everyone involved with these cartridges.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348664 - 01/01/16 12:32 AM
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> system11 got around 50 undumped TourVision carts
Beautiful. I know the games are basically the standard PCE versions but it's good to have their existence documented.
Are there any missing games asides from Parasol Stars (which is questionable), or is this all of 'em?
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Foxhack]
#348667 - 01/01/16 02:23 AM
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There's no complete list but we just happened on 47 so yes there are more.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: Smitdogg]
#348668 - 01/01/16 03:08 AM
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With the submission I included a list of known titles which hopefully will be added to the driver comments.
That's just the ones I know of so far, I'm keeping an eye out for more. I have Doreamon incoming.
Also looking to fill holes in my collection whether they're dumped or not.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: system11]
#348675 - 01/01/16 04:45 AM
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> With the submission I included a list of known titles which hopefully will be added
> to the driver comments.
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> That's just the ones I know of so far, I'm keeping an eye out for more. I have
> Doreamon incoming.
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> Also looking to fill holes in my collection whether they're dumped or not.
If you get any docs for the system, and need a translation, look me up. I can probably translate it without any major issues.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: system11]
#348685 - 01/01/16 12:05 PM
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Was an updated PCE (SuperGrafx) HuCard supported in TourVision ?
There are a few :
- 1941: Counter Attack (excelent use of system capabilities)
- Aldynes
- Battle Ace
- Daimakaimura (My favorite !)
- Madō King Granzort
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: CTOJAH]
#348697 - 01/01/16 07:06 PM
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No, no chance of that. The system really is a PC Engine board sat on top of a custom timer/cart changer system. Later version has both boards integrated but it's essentially the same thing.
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: dave00]
#348708 - 01/01/16 11:41 PM
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Re: DU: TourVision Storm
[Re: system11]
#348847 - 01/04/16 08:55 PM
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> > Excellent news! Also I wanted to make a list of cartridges in Spanish Arcade
> > Database:
> > http://www.recreativas.org/tour-vision-991-tour-vision-games
> > and that's help a lot.
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> > The system was in fact a few rare (I'm from Spain and only see it one time). It was
> a
> > cabinet like this:
> > http://www.recreativas.org/tour-vision-video-jeux-589-coaresa
> > The strange is the name Video Jeux, maybe was planned to be exported? Anyone
> remember
> > see it in France?
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> http://blog.system11.org
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> Feel free to use any of the photos for your site.
Hi many thanks! Also I'm updating the entry adding a list of available games for Tour Vision, and trying to include missing ones to get a more complete list. There no confirm if Parasol Stars was "released" for this system?
Regards.
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