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Question about soft lists
#344538 - 08/30/15 12:57 AM


I haven't been keeping up with things much these days. I know soft lists were implemented awhile ago but never messed with them. Are they basically just a list of games for a given system recognized as good dumps?



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Re: Question about soft lists new [Re: DiodeDude]
#344547 - 08/30/15 08:33 AM


> I haven't been keeping up with things much these days. I know soft lists were
> implemented awhile ago but never messed with them. Are they basically just a list of
> games for a given system recognized as good dumps?

From what I understand they are a listing of removable media like cartridges, tapes, disks, optical, etc.

There's a nice article on etabeta's site and although it's an old post, a lot of the information is explained very well and the information is completely relevant.

Feel free to give it a look
http://mamedev.emulab.it/etabeta/2010/05/11/documenting-software-at-last/



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Re: Question about soft lists new [Re: B2K24]
#344551 - 08/30/15 02:54 PM


Thank you



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Re: Question about soft lists new [Re: DiodeDude]
#344556 - 08/30/15 05:09 PM


They are the non-arcade systems/games from MESS emulator.

MAME and MESS have merged into one single project (MAME 0.162 and newer)



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One more question.... new [Re: B2K24]
#344562 - 08/30/15 09:47 PM


My NES roms for example are zips with .nes file extensions (no-intro). I noticed that softlists are expecting a zip with prg and chr files contained in them. Will Clrmame do the conversion work if I import softlists?



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: DiodeDude]
#344563 - 08/30/15 09:56 PM


I can't say about ClrMAME but if the file inside the .zip have the correct CRC32 checksum, the filename doesn't matter.



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: CiroConsentino]
#344565 - 08/30/15 11:38 PM


I guess the no-intro sets aren't considered any good, cause none of mine are recognized by Clrmame. Not when the datfile comes from mame.exe and softlist imported, anyway.... No-Intro's datfile verifies them as good though. They'll still play if I load them manually, but not as nice as QMC2 adding them to a list.



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: DiodeDude]
#344593 - 08/31/15 02:39 PM


> I guess the no-intro sets aren't considered any good, cause none of mine are
> recognized by Clrmame. Not when the datfile comes from mame.exe and softlist
> imported, anyway.... No-Intro's datfile verifies them as good though. They'll still
> play if I load them manually, but not as nice as QMC2 adding them to a list.

That's because No-intro uses a different dumping standard. No-intro uses .nes files which are all cartridge chips plus a header contained into a single file. MAME softlist use separate dumps all contained in a compressed file with the loading info into the nes.xml file. Both standards are valid dumps.



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: BIOS-D]
#344601 - 08/31/15 05:13 PM


> That's because No-intro uses a different dumping standard. No-intro uses .nes files
> which are all cartridge chips plus a header contained into a single file. MAME
> softlist use separate dumps all contained in a compressed file with the loading info
> into the nes.xml file. Both standards are valid dumps.

Correct. Pleasuredome has Software List torrents that let you fill up on dumps for all systems quite quickly



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: R. Belmont]
#344621 - 08/31/15 11:19 PM


> Correct. Pleasuredome has Software List torrents that let you fill up on dumps for
> all systems quite quickly

You could also get a partial set so ClrMAME could recognize them into the softlist by splitting the .nes files using tools like uCON64. However it involves command line knowledge.

"ucon64.exe -s *.nes" command if I recall correctly.



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: R. Belmont]
#344626 - 09/01/15 12:59 AM


> Correct. Pleasuredome has Software List torrents that let you fill up on dumps for
> all systems quite quickly

And most importantly they are [FREE] \o/ \o/ \o/

Your mileage will vary depending how much free disk space and bandwidth you're allowed to use though :P



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: R. Belmont]
#344631 - 09/01/15 03:39 AM


I thought about going the PD route, but the last time I tried to register, they had a policy of no email addresses from msn, hotmail, yahoo, etc. is that still the case?

I pretty much only collect roms for games I played growing up. I'm way past the Pokerom phase of emulation.



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: DiodeDude]
#344642 - 09/01/15 06:34 AM


> I thought about going the PD route, but the last time I tried to register, they had a policy of no email addresses from msn, hotmail, yahoo, etc. is that still the case?

I just signed in for giggles and was amazed that my account was still good. Seems I haven't been active on there since 2009! Time to catch up!

I had an old comcast.net email assigned to it. I was able to update it to a newer MSN email with no hassle. But maybe new accounts are treated differently, not sure.



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Re: One more question.... new [Re: Andrew]
#344660 - 09/01/15 10:15 PM


Thanks. I'll give it go later on today


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