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Looking for info about undumped Playmatic/Cidelsa games
#337343 - 02/28/15 05:02 PM
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Hi everyone.
Spanish company Cidelsa (Playmatic) released some arcade games, preserved and emulated in MAME like Altair, Destroyer and Draco.
But there still some unknown games uncovered, and I'm looking for people that can give more information about them.
Some of these games are:
- Clean octopus (referenced from a inventary of items from a museum exhibition listed here: https://perswww.kuleuven.be/~u0008708/museum.htm)
- Nightmare
- Space Blaster
And under a interchangeable game system board called "Magnet System", released later by EFO SA (the company that actually developed the games for Cidelsa) and using 3"5 diskettes for the games, apart from ripoffs of other games, they released their own games for that system. Some of the titles could be:
- A Day in Space
- Jungle Trophy
- Quadrum
- Crazy Driver
- War Mission
Magnet System is very hard to find, but It was released in other countries like France. More info and images here:
http://www.recreativas.org/magnet-1-168-efosa
And that is the reason of asking here. I found some of this stuff outside Spain. If you have anything related, information or images, please contact me here, I hope more spanish games can be located and preserved.
Many thanks,
David.
recreativas.org
Spanish Arcade Database.
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Re: Looking for info about undumped Playmatic/Cidelsa games
[Re: dave00]
#337345 - 02/28/15 06:44 PM
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>Spanish company Cidelsa (Playmatic) released some arcade games, preserved and emulated
>in MAME like Altair, Destroyer and Draco.
>But there still some unknown games uncovered, and I'm looking for people that can give
>more information about them.
Stiletto might be able to help with some game names, but while Stiletto and others are running the undumped Wiki site and updating entries or removing entries...depending if MAME documents the roms (whether game is playable or not playable, but if the roms are at least documented/supported in MAME), you really want to contact Asociación de usuarios de Máquinas Arcade y Pinballs because some members of AUMAP will know much better of what games existed in Spain or marketed from Spain to other parts of region of Europe.
If you already are a member of AUMAP and talked to everyone there already, I am not sure which other members of the group to reccomend of being most knowledgeable of games made by companies in Spain.
Haze was working on trying to emulate Mega Phoenix last year, but I don't believe it is fully emulated at this time. Some of the contributors that also leave a comment on Haze's site are likely AUMAP members. It appears one commenter still has a pcb or two with roms not yet dumped.
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first part
SyX February 21, 2014
Haze, i have some little info (code snippets) about other games (Hammerboy, Nonamed II, …) were going to run in the same board, i don’t know if it’s final revision or simply tests, but they initialize the interrupts vectors at the beginning with the next code:
second part
SyX March 1, 2014
At least in Nonamed II snippets, the PIC is used for the next functions: read switches 0-1, read security codes 0-3, start watchdog and return software version.
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>I found some of this stuff outside Spain. If you have anything related, information or
>images, please contact me here,
A lot of games already emulated have likely come from AUMAP members, but a couple of games were also purchased and dumped many years earlier by past members of the now defunct Dumping Project group which is not related to current Dumping Union group.
>I hope more spanish games can be located and preserved.
It depends if various members of AUMAP group can help out in the future.
Good luck on finding more names of Spanish arcade games.
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Re: Looking for info about undumped Playmatic/Cidelsa games
[Re: gregf]
#337346 - 02/28/15 07:41 PM
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Hi Gregf, many thanks for replying.
Yes, I contacted with AUMAP and after that a board of Magnet System had surfaced, with some disks, although all disks found were ripoffs of other games and not the original titles I'm looking for. Anyway Cidelsa exported games so items could be found someday outside as well at Spain.
About the games Haze emulated are from complety different company, Inder, there were games about 1991, like After the War or Megaphoenix.
The company about I'm looking, Cidelsa, is much older. EFO SA developed for them the mentioned Altair,Destroyer and Draco, and lost games like Nightmare or Clean Octupus should be from same years (1981-83 as much).
While the Magnet System board (the diskette system) that EFO SA released himself (without Playmatic/Cidelsa) could be around 1986/7 (the scanned ad is from a French magazine from December 1987).
Anyway Gregf, I know woul be hard to find more information, but the only I can do is more researching and asking here and there. I didn't know about Stiletto and Undumped Wiki, so I will try to contact him too. Again many thanks for take your time. 
Regards,
David.
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Re: Looking for info about undumped Playmatic/Cidelsa games
[Re: dave00]
#337351 - 03/01/15 03:34 AM
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>I contacted with AUMAP
Okay.
>company about I'm looking, Cidelsa, is much older. EFO SA developed for them the
>mentioned Altair,Destroyer and Draco, and lost games like Nightmare or Clean Octupus
>should be from same years (1981-83 as much).
I see...so it is only Cidelsa you are after.
Unfortunately not much regarding Cidelsa games on Undumped Wiki page. iirc the Octopus entry was first mentioned on MAME Italia forum within past year or so by someone that remembered the game and was asking about the game. Before then, no outside of Europe region knew about the game's existence.
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http://unmamed.mameworld.info/
http://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index.php?title=Main_Page
http://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index.php?title=Undumped
http://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index.php?title=Undumped#Playmatic_.2F_Cidelsa
http://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index..../_Clean_Octopus
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You probably have more info regarding some of the games within Spain compared to Undumped Wiki, but Stiletto and company do keep tabs and update when possible when new info is found.
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Some of these games are:
- Clean octopus (referenced from a inventary of items from a museum exhibition listed here: https://perswww.kuleuven.be/~u0008708/museum.htm)
- Nightmare
- Space Blaster
> I didn't know about Stiletto and Undumped Wiki, so I will try to contact him too.
Stiletto is a regular poster here and might either reply here on the thread or send a message to you later.
>I know would be hard to find more information, but the only I can do is more researching
>and asking here and there.
What is currently missing, regarding in Spain, is any info of video arcade games released during 1970s. There are probably some pong clones released there that folks outside of Spain are not aware of.
>Anyway Cidelsa exported games so items could be found someday outside as well at Spain.
One interesting find from a few years ago was a game that likely only a couple folks were aware of....especially one person that remembered the game's music when game ends and the player is able to add the name to ranks of players' top scores (not the highest score, but any score below top score).
Game was Planet Probe, a likely really rare limited game release and the only person that really recalled the game was extremely happy game was found and emulated at the time. The guesses are that Planet Probe was designed in Japan and some pcbs were released in parts of Europe.
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http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2012/11/06/italy-gets-a-planet-probe-part-1/
http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2012/11/06/italy-gets-a-planet-probe-part-2/
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Re: Looking for info about undumped Playmatic/Cidelsa games
[Re: gregf]
#337413 - 03/03/15 11:37 PM
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> Stiletto is a regular poster here and might either reply here on the thread or send a message to you later.
Great, I posted a thread in emulab.it too
> What is currently missing, regarding in Spain, is any info of video arcade games released during 1970s. There are probably some pong clones released there that folks outside of Spain are not aware of.
That's I'm trying to document at recreativas.org, from 70's to 2000's. In 70's mostly were unlicensed clones (not only pongs), with a few licensed.
You can check them at:
http://www.recreativas.org/maquinasrecreativas?lt=g
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