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r32138 Raiden 2 / DX
#331889 - 09/17/14 12:31 AM


Log:
Fuck yeah.

New games added or promoted from NOT_WORKING status
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Raiden 2 [Angelo Salese, Olivier Galibert]
Raiden DX [Angelo Salese, Olivier Galibert]

Affected files:
U trunk/src/mame/drivers/raiden2.c

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Great work guys -
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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: John IV]
#331890 - 09/17/14 12:50 AM


New protection defeated!



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: John IV]
#331923 - 09/17/14 07:10 AM


De-lurking to state my congrats on this huge milestone in MAME and emulation history.

10+ years later, after all the emulation attempts, failures, FAQs, flamewars, trolls, scene leaves, MAMEDev Quotes™, brainmelts, and proclamations of never such as:

http://www.retroroms.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=7258
Mosquito
Raiden2 is heavilly protected (graphics + cpu) and everyone who tried failed. So don't hold your breath because it's on the list of the games that'll probably never be emulated.
Posted on: 2004/3/1 19:16


...Never is here.

(Can "Never is Here" be the slogan for 0.155 please?)



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: John IV]
#331924 - 09/17/14 07:11 AM


http://imgur.com/CKgTGLv

http://imgur.com/PUOBF9b

http://imgur.com/PfYg3qC

http://imgur.com/6K4gVGv

http://imgur.com/hU4Yjja

http://imgur.com/inT1WgF



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: John IV]
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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: John IV]
#331932 - 09/17/14 10:09 AM


simply amazing !!! Thx to all

What is a differences betwen Raiden2 and Raiden2 DX ??



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: John IV]
#331933 - 09/17/14 12:06 PM



Quote:


Fuck yeah.




Fuck yeah indeed

Panic Park is next



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Solstar]
#331935 - 09/17/14 12:57 PM


> Fuck yeah indeed
>
> Panic Park is next

It won't be as long as you make posts like this.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: John IV]
#331951 - 09/17/14 05:21 PM


> Log:
> Fuck yeah.
>
> New games added or promoted from NOT_WORKING status
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Raiden 2 [Angelo Salese, Olivier Galibert]
> Raiden DX [Angelo Salese, Olivier Galibert]
>
> Affected files:
> U trunk/src/mame/drivers/raiden2.c
>
> --
> Great work guys -
> www.neededalink.com

Congrats! It always feels great when you make a break through and find a solution. And it's all about never giving up!



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: The tECHIDNA]
#331957 - 09/17/14 07:25 PM


About 9.5 years later and we go from this...

http://mamelife.blogspot.com/2005/03/nmk004-update.html

...'sound simulation'...to full emulation of NMK004, during this same cycle.

0.155 will be one heck of a MAME release for many. Great job team!



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: John IV]
#332049 - 09/19/14 02:35 PM


What about the r2dx_v33 games ?
Does this improve them too or does it have nothing to do with ?
Dont they all use the same mcu ?

Whateva thanks for the milestone improvement.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Hibo]
#332052 - 09/19/14 05:08 PM


> Does this improve them too or does it have nothing to do with ?

Nothing to do with them, they're on different hardware with unbelievably bad sound and less/different protection.

That said, those versions are being looked at too.

> Dont they all use the same mcu ?

There is no MCU. The COP is a gate array with a bunch of fixed-function math operations, each with separate ports. Quite similar to the Sega X/Y board math helpers or the SNES multiply/divide unit, except on steroids.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: B2K24]
#332260 - 09/24/14 08:41 PM


This is one of my most beloved games ever, so thanks to all involved!

Little off topic:

> http://imgur.com/CKgTGLv
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> http://imgur.com/PUOBF9b
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> http://imgur.com/PfYg3qC
>
> http://imgur.com/6K4gVGv
>
> http://imgur.com/hU4Yjja
>
> http://imgur.com/inT1WgF

I would like to obtain this effect while playing MAME; can I ask how you reached the crt effect? I assume it is some kind of software, seeing the yellow frame numbers not being in crt mode.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: spogghi]
#332262 - 09/24/14 11:26 PM


> I would like to obtain this effect while playing MAME; can I ask how you reached the
> crt effect? I assume it is some kind of software, seeing the yellow frame numbers not
> being in crt mode.

The software I used for screenshot capture is a registered version of FRAPS and to obtain the effect SDLMAME and Timothy Lottes' CRT Shader must be used.

Information and files are HERE

A big Thanks to SoltanGris42 and of course Timothy Lottes for making this possible.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: B2K24]
#332298 - 09/25/14 11:21 AM


No man, don't point him to that... (not Yet).
In normal MAME, try to Mess around with HLSL-settings...
read up on those, you'll get close enough without having to have some exotic MAME flying around your system.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: RATMNL]
#332309 - 09/25/14 02:30 PM


> No man, don't point him to that... (not Yet).
> In normal MAME, try to Mess around with HLSL-settings...
> read up on those, you'll get close enough without having to have some exotic MAME
> flying around your system.

Yes, because a version of MAME maintained by MAMEdev in the official tree and shipped as part of half a dozen Linux distributions is exotic



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: R. Belmont]
#332313 - 09/25/14 07:02 PM


not quite exactly as I meant it,
but more along the lines of...

So (new) user asks a question where there's a simple and an complicated answer... one that gets him on his way and another that requires (a lot of) new stuff... don't get me wrong, I'm all for learning, I just found it not to be the most logical answer to the question.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: RATMNL]
#332316 - 09/25/14 09:25 PM


> So (new) user asks a question where there's a simple and an complicated answer... one
> that gets him on his way and another that requires (a lot of) new stuff... don't get
> me wrong, I'm all for learning, I just found it not to be the most logical answer to
> the question.

I have to actually question your logic because of the fact that the GLSL system as it is currently, only requires you to point 1 option to said shader files and you're essentially done with the end result in place for you.

Your solution was "yeah, just mess with all the settings and you'll eventually get there" I don't see that as simple and getting him on his way.

And my experiences with SDL builds thus far are they're pretty much almost the same as baseline aside from some different options as far as operation and useability goes.

If I can get it setup from scratch and get it all working anyone can and that process is not all that different from baseline anyway.

At any rate, if spogghi or anyone else is hesitant to enter SDL land HERE are my HLSL settings for vertical.ini that I currently have in place. You'll need to find crt_shadow_mask.png and modified post.fx on your own.

Best of luck



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: B2K24]
#332338 - 09/26/14 12:43 PM


> The software I used for screenshot capture is a registered version of FRAPS and to
> obtain the effect SDLMAME and Timothy Lottes' CRT Shader must be used.

Thank you guys for your help; is there a windows official version of SDLMAME or should I get the same effect with, for example, my simple and poor MAMEUI?



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: spogghi]
#332339 - 09/26/14 12:58 PM


I rest my case...



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: spogghi]
#332342 - 09/26/14 02:21 PM


> > The software I used for screenshot capture is a registered version of FRAPS and to
> > obtain the effect SDLMAME and Timothy Lottes' CRT Shader must be used.
>
> Thank you guys for your help; is there a windows official version of SDLMAME or
> should I get the same effect with, for example, my simple and poor MAMEUI?

Forget about the MAMEUI builds. Shaders won't work on those. Only the HLSL and png files will work.

SDLMAME is a clone of MAME. There are three ports. Linux, Apple and Windows. SDLMAME have to be compile on your computer. MAME official website will never have these to download.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: B2K24]
#332600 - 10/01/14 07:11 AM


Timothy Lottes for making this possible.

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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Solstar]
#332616 - 10/01/14 07:01 PM


> Fuck yeah.
>
> Fuck yeah indeed
>
> Panic Park is next

to get put on the "do not make work under any circumstances" list.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: R. Belmont]
#332618 - 10/01/14 07:08 PM


> > Fuck yeah.
> >
> > Fuck yeah indeed
> >
> > Panic Park is next
>
> to get put on the "do not make work under any circumstances" list.

Is that because someone asked for you to emulate it or because you hate the game?



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Master O]
#332620 - 10/01/14 08:12 PM


> > > Fuck yeah.
> > >
> > > Fuck yeah indeed
> > >
> > > Panic Park is next
> >
> > to get put on the "do not make work under any circumstances" list.
>
> Is that because someone asked for you to emulated it or because you hate the game?

You are an embarrassment to the MAME community.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: hap]
#332622 - 10/01/14 09:15 PM


> > > > Fuck yeah.
> > > >
> > > > Fuck yeah indeed
> > > >
> > > > Panic Park is next
> > >
> > > to get put on the "do not make work under any circumstances" list.
> >
> > Is that because someone asked for you to emulated it or because you hate the game?
>
> You are an embarrassment to the MAME community.



Don't know why that made me laugh so much



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: hap]
#332623 - 10/01/14 10:02 PM


> > > > Fuck yeah.
> > > >
> > > > Fuck yeah indeed
> > > >
> > > > Panic Park is next
> > >
> > > to get put on the "do not make work under any circumstances" list.
> >
> > Is that because someone asked for you to emulated it or because you hate the game?
>
> You are an embarrassment to the MAME community.

What the fuck? All I asked was a normal question.

I've never heard of that game, so I don't know about any sort of inside jokes mamedev would have about that game.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Master O]
#332627 - 10/01/14 11:45 PM


> What the fuck? All I asked was a normal question.
>
> I've never heard of that game, so I don't know about any sort of inside jokes mamedev
> would have about that game.

It seems like a lot of the questions you ask in many different posts you have is an attempt to instigate an argument.

It's like you hit the post button then sit back with a bag of popcorn or something.

You could very well be innocent, it's just that your intentions seem different.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: B2K24]
#332637 - 10/02/14 05:17 AM


> It seems like a lot of the questions you ask in many different posts you have is an attempt to instigate an argument. It's like you hit the post button then sit back with a bag of popcorn or something. You could very well be innocent, it's just that your intentions seem different.



He seems to skirt the edge only because of the context. Master O has as far as I've known been on the MAME, rather than the rom kiddiez, side of things. Though, I admit this instance Arby was likely being surly. Still, the post was two weeks old, and Vas already chimed in on this, so who was stirring the pot?



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Traso]
#332657 - 10/02/14 12:08 PM


> He seems to skirt the edge only because of the context. Master O has as far as I've
> known been on the MAME, rather than the rom kiddiez, side of things. Though, I admit
> this instance Arby was likely being surly. Still, the post was two weeks old, and Vas
> already chimed in on this, so who was stirring the pot?

I say after an week start locking old threads up.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Traso]
#332659 - 10/02/14 12:22 PM


> so who was stirring the pot?

Solstar, pretty much. Like half his posts are nattering on about Panic Park and begging devs to work on this or that. You'd think at this point he'd know better, but noooope.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: R. Belmont]
#332665 - 10/02/14 04:12 PM


> > Fuck yeah.
> >
> > Fuck yeah indeed
> >
> > Panic Park is next
>
> to get put on the "do not make work under any circumstances" list.

Indeed. Too bad I do have some ns23 code in my tree. Oh well.

OG.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Olivier Galibert]
#332673 - 10/02/14 08:03 PM


> > > Fuck yeah.
> > >
> > > Fuck yeah indeed
> > >
> > > Panic Park is next
> >
> > to get put on the "do not make work under any circumstances" list.
>
> Indeed. Too bad I do have some ns23 code in my tree. Oh well.
>
> OG.

Maybe he knew that and it was more along the line of an announcement
(should be noted that I have no personal attachment to this game and 'couldn't care less' so to speak, I just find it hilarious how things work around here)



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: RATMNL]
#332678 - 10/02/14 09:37 PM


> Don't know why that made me laugh so much

It's funny because hap is usually the good cop.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: RATMNL]
#332695 - 10/03/14 03:17 AM


> I just discovered we have a pink Elephant

Have you been eating space cakes again?



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#332704 - 10/03/14 07:32 AM


> > so who was stirring the pot?


> Solstar, pretty much. Like half his posts are nattering on about Panic Park and begging devs to work on this or that. You'd think at this point he'd know better, but noooope.


I guess it's just too easy for me to refuse the world's requests without malice. Like when my momma asks me to do something she can do quite easily, and that I have no reason to do, I say no. Unless I want to, and then I say yes. I don't punish her for asking me.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Traso]
#332705 - 10/03/14 07:35 AM


> I guess it's just too easy for me to refuse the world's requests without malice. Like
> when my momma asks me to do something she can do quite easily, and that I have no
> reason to do, I say no. Unless I want to, and then I say yes. I don't punish her for
> asking me.

Solstar goes about it in a totally obnoxious way. He needs to realise he's not winning any friends.



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: Vas Crabb]
#332713 - 10/03/14 12:32 PM


Yeah, but that's totally irrelevant



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Re: r32138 Raiden 2 / DX new [Re: RATMNL]
#332745 - 10/04/14 05:48 AM


> Yeah, but that's totally irrelevant

Just like the pink elephant


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