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Pages: 1 GatKong Tetris Mason Reged: 04/20/07 Posts: 5907 Loc: Sector 9 Send PM World Record Mario game: 4:57:69 #327629 - 06/30/14 11:40 PM Reply R. Belmont Cuckoo for IGAvania Reged: 09/21/03 Posts: 9716 Loc: ECV-197 The Orville Send PM Re: World Record Mario game: 4:57:69 [Re: GatKong] #327727 - 07/03/14 06:06 PM Reply I'm waiting for verification on hardware; the emulator he used isn't the most accurate. Tomu Breidah No Problems, Only Solutions Reged: 08/14/04 Posts: 6819 Loc: Neither here, nor there. Send PM Re: World Record Mario game: 4:57:69 [Re: R. Belmont] #327729 - 07/03/14 06:28 PM Reply > I'm waiting for verification on hardware; the emulator he used isn't the most > accurate. TASes are done through emulators -of course. For verification to be made on actual hardware... Wouldn't that require wiring something up to the board, such as an Arduino preprogrammed with control inputs? eta: I suppose the hardest part of doing something like that would be getting the timing down perfect / in sync. Edited by Tomu Breidah (07/03/14 06:29 PM) LEVEL-4 DaRayu MAME Fan Reged: 02/05/13 Posts: 162 Send PM Re: World Record Mario game: 4:57:69 [Re: R. Belmont] #327731 - 07/03/14 06:32 PM Reply > I'm waiting for verification on hardware; the emulator he used isn't the most > accurate. Why don't you just take the number of frames that were needed and divide them by the number of frames a real NES displays per second? Then you can see if the time is correct. Smitdogg Reged: 09/18/03 Posts: 16877 Send PM Re: World Record Mario game: 4:57:69 [Re: DaRayu] #327732 - 07/03/14 07:07 PM Reply Hardware isn't perfect like that. Depending on how demanding parts of the game are, it could display different frames per second in different parts. I'm guessing the emulator isn't accurate enough to emulate that. Pi Allergic to life Reged: 09/20/03 Posts: 6449 Loc: Room 101 Send PM Re: World Record Mario game: 4:57:69 [Re: Tomu Breidah] #327738 - 07/03/14 11:16 PM Reply > TASes are done through emulators -of course. It's not a TAS, it's a live attempt without tricks, just skill. At least that's what I got from the comments and its listing in the leaderboard. As for testing in real hardware, yes people does plug interfaces to feed the input files to the real hardware. I saw it not too long ago for hacking a nintendo game (forgot which one) to run arbitrary code on real hardware. The damn thing coded on the fly a pong game. Does anyone remember this thing? Wound up, can't sleep, can't do anything right, little honey / Oh, since I set my eyes on you. / I tell you the truth. I can't get it right / Get it right / Since I met you... DMala Sleep is overrated Reged: 05/09/05 Posts: 3989 Loc: Waltham, MA Send PM Re: World Record Mario game: 4:57:69 [Re: GatKong] #327746 - 07/04/14 06:08 AM Reply It's interesting, I saw a blurb about this taking about how he exploited all kinds of glitches to get this time. The only glitch I saw being exploited was using the pipe instead of the vine to get to the World 8 warp. The end of 8-1 was a little weird, bouncing off the Bullet Bill onto the flagpole, but I can't see how that saved any time. Tomu Breidah No Problems, Only Solutions Reged: 08/14/04 Posts: 6819 Loc: Neither here, nor there. Send PM Re: World Record Mario game: 4:57:69 [Re: Pi] #327780 - 07/05/14 01:27 AM Reply > > TASes are done through emulators -of course. > > It's not a TAS, it's a live attempt without tricks, just skill. At least that's what > I got from the comments and its listing in the leaderboard. > > As for testing in real hardware, yes people does plug interfaces to feed the input > files to the real hardware. I saw it not too long ago for hacking a nintendo game > (forgot which one) to run arbitrary code on real hardware. The damn thing coded on > the fly a pong game. Does anyone remember this thing? http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...amp;o=&vc=1 LEVEL-4 Traso MAME Fan Reged: 01/15/13 Posts: 2687 Send PM Some oddites...or is this how the game plays? [Re: Smitdogg] #327788 - 07/05/14 07:27 AM Reply Is Mario supposed to be able to run over the little gaps - for example in 8-1 on up? Also, why is Mario continuing to run when stuck at the flag pole on 8-1? And, why is Mario translucent the whole time? Scifi frauds. SF illuminates. _________________ Culture General Contact Unit (Eccentric) Dullaron Diablo III - Dunard #1884 Reged: 07/22/05 Posts: 6125 Loc: Fort Worth, Tx Send PM Re: Some oddites...or is this how the game plays? [Re: Traso] #327790 - 07/05/14 07:54 AM Reply > Is Mario supposed to be able to run over the little gaps - for example in 8-1 on up? > Also, why is Mario continuing to run when stuck at the flag pole on 8-1? And, why is > Mario translucent the whole time? I saw that Mario ran into a flag pole box and still got the flag. I was like that can't be right. I'm glad you saw that too. LOL W11 Home 64-bit + Nobara OS / AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT / AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core 3.59 GHz / RAM 64 GB Tomu Breidah No Problems, Only Solutions Reged: 08/14/04 Posts: 6819 Loc: Neither here, nor there. Send PM Re: Some oddites...or is this how the game plays? [Re: Dullaron] #327791 - 07/05/14 08:27 AM Reply > > Is Mario supposed to be able to run over the little gaps - for example in 8-1 on > up? > > Also, why is Mario continuing to run when stuck at the flag pole on 8-1? And, why > is > > Mario translucent the whole time? > > I saw that Mario ran into a flag pole box and still got the flag. I was like that > can't be right. I'm glad you saw that too. LOL Not to argue with Pi, but this is why I was thinking it was a TAS rather than a very, very skilled player using a controller. Of course, I suppose I could just read the description for the Video, but... wutevz. eta2: So maybe he did play it... But he never said it wasn't a TAS either. Edited by Tomu Breidah (07/05/14 08:43 AM) LEVEL-4 DMala Sleep is overrated Reged: 05/09/05 Posts: 3989 Loc: Waltham, MA Send PM Re: Some oddites...or is this how the game plays? [Re: Traso] #327794 - 07/05/14 03:03 PM Reply > Is Mario supposed to be able to run over the little gaps - for example in 8-1 on up? Yeah, you can definitely run across the little gaps, as long as you're going full tilt holding B. There are a few sections that would be pretty close to impossible if you couldn't do that. > Also, why is Mario continuing to run when stuck at the flag pole on 8-1? I'd never seen that glitch before, but it appears to be because he bounced straight into the pole after hopping on the Bullet Bill. Weird, but it didn't seem to affect the time at all. Pages: 1

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