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Re: Can't make a backup >:-/
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#325587 - 05/03/14 06:42 PM
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Try booting WindowsPE (or the Windows install / repair disc) and run the portable version of Defraggler offline.
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Re: Can't make a backup >:-/
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#325588 - 05/03/14 07:26 PM
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If Windows PE + Defraggler can't do it, try http://www.mydefrag.com/
IIRC it can be programmed to run at boot, being able to move around MFT and related data.
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Re: Can't make a backup >:-/
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#325589 - 05/03/14 07:28 PM
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> How was I able to make a back-up before, but now I can't?
If you are using windows backup then it is based on the VHD format. Use the utility sdelete to zero out any non used space. http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb897443.aspx
Basically anything that is '0' will just get marked that way and not saved. But as you use a drive stuff gets data but not accessible anymore as delete is just removing the pointer to the data not the data. SSDs uses trim that really does 0 it out in the background for you. Normal HD's dont.
If you find a util that can move a file speak up. I have looked for one. Could write my own but it has not been that big of a deal. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa364577%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
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Re: Can't make a backup >:-/
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#325590 - 05/03/14 07:36 PM
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> Basically anything that is '0' will just get marked that way and not saved. But as
> you use a drive stuff gets data but not accessible anymore as delete is just removing
> the pointer to the data not the data.
AFAIK VHD and similar formats do not save data if it's not allocated in the MFT (or whatever table corresponds to the formatting of the partition).
> SSDs uses trim that really does 0 it out in the
> background for you. Normal HD's dont.
That's not a plus, but a limitation of SSDs, which need to zero out every page/cluster before using it again. Using trim in the background speeds up the process of finding the right page to write directly instead of having to clean and then write, which would be slow. The trim command wasn't needed in mechanical hard disks so it didn't exist.
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Re: Can't make a backup >:-/
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#325593 - 05/03/14 09:50 PM
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> > Basically anything that is '0' will just get marked that way and not saved. But as
> > you use a drive stuff gets data but not accessible anymore as delete is just
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> > the pointer to the data not the data.
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> AFAIK VHD and similar formats do not save data if it's not allocated in the MFT (or
> whatever table corresponds to the formatting of the partition).
That would not very well work then. As virtualpc is basically an emulator where the format came from. One of the people who made up CHD had his hand that one too. It is basically a 1:1 copy with 0 pages removed similar to VDI and VMDK. You can literally take the VHD that MS backup makes and mount it in a virtual machine and see everything.
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> > SSDs uses trim that really does 0 it out in the
> > background for you. Normal HD's dont.
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> That's not a plus, but a limitation of SSDs, which need to zero out every
> page/cluster before using it again. Using trim in the background speeds up the
> process of finding the right page to write directly instead of having to clean and
> then write, which would be slow. The trim command wasn't needed in mechanical hard
> disks so it didn't exist.
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Re: Can't make a backup >:-/
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#325599 - 05/04/14 04:26 AM
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Should be able to make a backup :-/
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The backup failed.
There is not enough disk space to create the volume shadow copy on the storage location. Make sure that, for all volumes to be backup up, the minimum required disk space for shadow copy creation is available. This applies to both the backup storage destination and volumes included in the backup. Minimum requirement: For volumes less than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 50 megabytes of free space. For volumes more than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 320 megabytes of free space. Recommended: At least 1 gigabyte of free disk space on each volume if volume size is more than 1 gigabyte. (0x80780119)
I'll try again tomorrow.
Laptop seems to be crashing faster now.
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> The backup failed.
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> There is not enough disk space to create the volume shadow copy on the storage
> location. Make sure that, for all volumes to be backup up, the minimum required disk
> space for shadow copy creation is available. This applies to both the backup storage
> destination and volumes included in the backup. Minimum requirement: For volumes less
> than 500 megabytes, the minimum is 50 megabytes of free space. For volumes more than
> 500 megabytes, the minimum is 320 megabytes of free space. Recommended: At least 1
> gigabyte of free disk space on each volume if volume size is more than 1 gigabyte.
> (0x80780119)
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> I'll try again tomorrow.
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> Laptop seems to be crashing faster now.
Is it blue screen or just 'off'. If the later you may have an overheating problem.
Some laptops snork up dust bunnies quite easily. Sometimes the thermal paste on the CPU is not put on very well.
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Re: Nope.. edit, edit2: Done!...Thanks everyone for your help. :-)
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#325633 - 05/04/14 11:11 PM
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> > Laptop seems to be crashing faster now.
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> Is it blue screen or just 'off'. If the later you may have an overheating problem.
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> Some laptops snork up dust bunnies quite easily. Sometimes the thermal paste on the
> CPU is not put on very well.
I did have 1 BS, but it's almost always just 'off' or self reboot. Then it may reload where I can login, or get the "PXE Media Test Failure, Check Cable...."
ETA: I increased the size of the 'backup' partition on the laptop's HDD (and greatly reduced the size of the OS partition). Finally made the backup.
Now to put the SSD in, hope for the best. 
eta2: Gotta have the partitions aligned. Can't seem to use 'Diskpart'. I ordered the FINEX ultra usb 3.0 tranfer thing. If I can't figure anything else out - then that should be my last hope.
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Final Edit (barring any unforeseen negative circumstances)
Using the Finex cable and HD cloning software I've now got the SSD installed and working. No more pxe bla bla at start-up. 
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And I was able to shrink the OS partition by 6GB. This should work.
