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System 16 Updated
#321612 - 02/07/14 10:37 PM


System 16 has had it's first update for 2014! Some new stuff (new hardware) and old stuff (prototypes and cabinet pictures) in this update, enjoy!




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Crossfire cab photo new [Re: Sixtoe]
#321618 - 02/07/14 10:53 PM




Another good update there.

>and old stuff (prototypes and cabinet pictures) in this update, enjoy!

As for Crossfire
http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=756&page=1#414


You will want to get this photo asap to hold on to for your next Sys 16 update.

It is a rare photo of a Crossfire cab. It was from last month's auction in which hard-to-find cabs were combined for winning bid price into the 5 figure range.

It's a bummer that there were no photos of PSE's Knights in Armor.


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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atari-Crossfire-...57#ht_438wt_900

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SUPER-RARE-Early...7#ht_1702wt_900

Shark Jaws
Outlaw
Dead Eye
Crossfire
Knights In Armor
Avenger


Not perfect by any means, but pretty much intact.

Shark Jaws
Outlaw
Knights in Armor

All looked complete.

The Computer Boards looked shinny and amazingly in good condition to my eye.

I have worked on Boardwalk games for 40 years, and usually these are dull and rusty... BUT NOT HERE !!
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Good job! new [Re: gregf]
#321620 - 02/07/14 11:01 PM


> It's a bummer that there were no photos of PSE's Knights in Armor.

There are, but they're just crap shots of the bezel.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Knights-in-Armor-early-B-W-video-game-/141168036789?orig_cvip=true

Anyhow, System16.com doesn't even cover PSE, gregf...

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Congrats on the update (and the shoutout), Sixtoe. Looking fine here. Particularly like the new cabinet photo additions.

Don't forget that auction photo flyer of Data East cassette game Bumpoline
http://mamedev.emulab.it/undumped/index.php?title=Bumpoline

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Re: Good job! new [Re: Stiletto]
#321624 - 02/07/14 11:12 PM




>> It's a bummer that there were no photos of PSE's Knights in Armor.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Knights-in-Armor-early-B-W-video-game-/141168036789?orig_cvip=true

>There are, but they're just crap shots of the bezel.

I didn't know that was separately listed. I should have looked at completed section.


>Anyhow, System16.com doesn't even cover PSE, gregf...

Yep. I threw the comment in there if someone was asking if there were any photos of PSE's KIA and you certainly found a couple from the auction listing that I had overlooked.



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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: Sixtoe]
#321646 - 02/08/14 06:18 AM


Should add Ringedge 2 to Sega hardware

Some corrections/updates...

Cyber Diver should be added to TypeX2

Mobile Suit Gundam: Spirits of Zeon should be added to TypeX+ (there are 2 versions of this game)

Otomedius should be added to Konami PC

Stunt Typhoon is still under Scorpion....should be under Type Zero

Ultra Street Fighter IV should be added to TypeX3

Valve Limit R should be added to TypeX

Virtua Fighter 5 Final Showdown is not a Ringedge game, it is on Lindbergh Silver, equivalent of Yellow



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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: ShouTime]
#321678 - 02/08/14 08:36 PM


Why no Raw Thrills and Global VR Games? Probably because these companies made up of PC-based games?



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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: Embryoice]
#321681 - 02/08/14 08:56 PM


> Why no Raw Thrills and Global VR Games? Probably because these companies made up of
> PC-based games?

Mostly, he just sticks to the major historic players. Hell, when the site first started it was pretty much just Sega games.

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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: Stiletto]
#321687 - 02/09/14 12:01 AM


Indeed.
The site was primarily born out of my love for the old unique hardware that arcade games used and the constant bleeding edge development that went along with it, nowadays most/all games are PC based using 5 year old PC technology or even worse 5 year old PC/Console games ported to arcade cabinets.
Also, you have to bear in mind that it's just me doing the site and there's only so much time I have, I'm already acutely aware that I spread myself too thin, so adding extra sections that I'm not too fussed about would be self defeating and doom them to never be updated, I've even toyed with a year cap to not go beyond.

That being said, if someone emailed me with a hardware description, PCB pictures, title/ingame screenshots and cabinets preferably formatted to the correct size and background, then they'd drop straight into the site and I'm 99% sure I'd add them. If I have to hunt down anything and research it, I'd rather spend that time finding missing data from some of the main sections "unknown" pages.




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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: Sixtoe]
#321690 - 02/09/14 12:58 AM


It might be a good idea to write that in the news section on the site.



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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: Smitdogg]
#321695 - 02/09/14 01:59 AM


> It might be a good idea to write that in the news section on the site.

It might be a good idea for people not to have unrealistic expectations of a site made by one man, but we can't always get what we want.



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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#321698 - 02/09/14 02:04 AM


I don't see why we should turn down his offer. I didn't say anything about expectations. If he'll copy paste in updates from people like gregf then let him do it.



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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: Smitdogg]
#321722 - 02/09/14 01:44 PM


> I don't see why we should turn down his offer. I didn't say anything about
> expectations. If he'll copy paste in updates from people like gregf then let him do
> it.

Oh, I didn't mean you had unrealistic expectations, I was just referring to the post several steps up the thread. But yeah, if someone's willing to whip up their own page such that it can drop right into System 16, I don't see why Six should turn down an offer like that.



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Re: System 16 Updated new [Re: MooglyGuy]
#321723 - 02/09/14 02:21 PM


Aye, and I wouldn't, as I've said before the thing that takes ages is research and tracking down decent pictures, if they're handed to me on a plate then




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Re: Crossfire cab photo new [Re: gregf]
#321735 - 02/09/14 08:00 PM


> Another good update there.
>
> > and old stuff (prototypes and cabinet pictures) in this update, enjoy!
>
> As for Crossfire
> http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=756&page=1#414
>
> You will want to get this photo asap to hold on to for your next Sys 16 update.
>
> It is a rare photo of a Crossfire cab. It was from last month's auction in which
> hard-to-find cabs were combined for winning bid price into the 5 figure range.

So Sixtoe has gone and added the photo already (a "soft" unannounced update) and also transcribed the instructions from the instruction card.

And based off the old description from Lyle Rains, and the instructions, Sixtoe determined that it is, in fact:

A video arcade version of the board game Crossfire.



(The original board game version Sixtoe has pictured at System16.com predates the 90's version, of course. I just know this commercial better.)

Trivia: this probably makes it the first ever board game-to-video arcade adaptation. My guess is that it was unlicensed, though.

Why I never made the connection, I'll never know.

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Re: Crossfire cab photo new [Re: Stiletto]
#321741 - 02/09/14 10:42 PM




http://www.system16.com/hardware.php?id=756&page=1#414

>So Sixtoe has gone and added the photo already (a "soft" unannounced update) and also
> transcribed the instructions from the instruction card.


>And based off the old description from Lyle Rains, and the instructions, Sixtoe
>determined that it is, in fact:

>A video arcade version of the board game Crossfire.


Hooray Sixtoe. Now it makes sense.


>(The original board game version Sixtoe has pictured at System16.com predates the 90's
> version, of course. I just know this commercial better.)


I agree after looking at the cover on the box in that entry.


>Trivia: this probably makes it the first ever board game-to-video arcade adaptation. My
>guess is that it was unlicensed, though. Why I never made the connection, I'll never
>know.


I will say you are correct, but I would still like to know when the kids game was originally released. Another sleuthing adventure just to really get this all figured out to see who was copying who. It probably was Atari/Kee Games from the kids game.

I wonder if it was because of the potential having to "license" issue, or players didn't like the game play and it was canned quickly.

I wonder if Keith might be able to get more answers about this at a later time from Lyle or another former Atari staff 1970s era employee.



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Re: Crossfire cab photo new [Re: gregf]
#321743 - 02/09/14 11:06 PM


> I will say you are correct, but I would still like to know when the kids game was
> originally released. Another sleuthing adventure just to really get this all figured
> out to see who was copying who. It probably was Atari/Kee Games from the kids game.

http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2816/crossfire
Says 1971, so does Wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossfire_%28board_game%29

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Re: Crossfire cab photo new [Re: Stiletto]
#321748 - 02/10/14 01:55 AM



>>I will say you are correct, but I would still like to know when the kids game was
>>originally released. Another sleuthing adventure just to really get this all figured
>>out to see who was copying who. It probably was Atari/Kee Games from the kids game.


http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2816/crossfire

>Says 1971, so does Wikipedia.

Okay. I wonder if Keith will be able to get any more interesting behind-the-scenes info about the reason behind Crossfire sort of disappearing such as who made the decisions to get rid of the game so it wasn't fully marketed with flyers etc.



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MooglyGuy was quiet for ages..... new [Re: Smitdogg]
#321845 - 02/12/14 12:01 AM


Now he's got a hot-button issue.....



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Re: MooglyGuy was quiet for ages..... new [Re: Traso]
#321865 - 02/12/14 09:54 AM


> Now he's got a hot-button issue.....

I was banned for ages, now I've learned my lesson and am being more or less civil and not cursing anyone out, so...


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