|
DU January News Roundup
#320908 - 01/25/14 03:36 AM
|
|
|
I dumped Angler King and thanks to Naoki, Time Crisis II TSS5 Ver.A. I also dumped 2 more Triforce hardware sets.
Thanks to recent donations we got the tapes for Kee/Atari's Quiz Show.
Andy Welburn is going to dump them for us later this year (we got the original version and Rev.A) and he also has some board sets of it so he is going to dump the missing chip so the driver can be completed.
Also thanks to donations we got a very expensive collection of Tourvision carts which are going to Charles to be dumped.
Tourvision is an arcade system based on the TurboGrafx.
rtw dumped Happy 6-in-1 Version 1.02 and Club Kart Prize. any dumped a ton of stuff including Jet Wave EAB, Street Fighter 2 bootlegs, Tekken2 Japan Ver.C and others. Kevin Eshbach read out some 82s153’s from Ropeman. Andrew Welburn read out the pld's from the CVS system and fixed some notes about it. Brain dumped Pocket Gals VIP and an alt version of Rough Ranger. dlfrsilver got the source code for Art of Fighting and system11 sent us a bunch of new dumps as well:
Deluxe 5 - alt Deluxe 5 - another Fantasia - suspect a bugfix version, came from a newer model board with one fewer PAL Gals Panic 3 - Hong Kong version Gals Panic II - German single board version New Multi 5 - alt Pocket Gals VIP - alt Viper Phase 1 - alt
I'm sure I missed something that I'll edit in later.
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: Smitdogg]
#320909 - 01/25/14 04:19 AM
|
|
|
Wow, games made in Spain based in pc engine How working this tapes? (the 1st pic)
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: fortuna_chan]
#320910 - 01/25/14 04:21 AM
|
|
|
The tapes are NOS so as long as they were kept in a correct environment they should read out, hopefully. With games that old you have to roll the dice.
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: Smitdogg]
#320913 - 01/25/14 04:56 AM
|
|
|
Niiiiiice.
|
What? There's nothing here to say.
|
|
gregf |
Ramtek's Trivia promoter
|
|
|
Reged: 09/21/03
|
Posts: 8634
|
Loc: southern CA, US
|
|
Send PM
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: Smitdogg]
#320914 - 01/25/14 05:17 AM
|
|
|
>we got the tapes for Kee/Atari's Quiz Show. Andy Welburn is going to dump them for us >later this year (we got the original version and Rev.A) and he also has some board sets >of it so he is going to dump the missing chip so the driver can be completed.
Hooray.
I hope Andy gets them backed up at some service prior to having the tapes read out, but he has been in business so he has his stuff down pretty well.
I wonder if the hardware is same operation where the tape is an audio tape and the tape data is converted by a chip to appear to be readable character text on the monitor when a player is playing the game. Ramtek Trivia which was released in 1975 does it that way.
--
I forgot the Tourvision system was supported years earlier. src/mame/drivers/tourvis.c
If the wanted list is correct, and after the latest cartridges (in photo) are supported, there are a couple other cartridge titles still missing.
Final Match Tennis Formation Soccer Out Run After Burner Final Lap Columns Power Sports Saigo no Nindou Son Son II
Edited by gregf (01/25/14 09:27 PM)
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: gregf]
#320916 - 01/25/14 06:00 AM
|
|
|
> > we got the tapes for Kee/Atari's Quiz Show. Andy Welburn is going to dump them for > us > > later this year (we got the original version and Rev.A) and he also has some board > sets > > of it so he is going to dump the missing chip so the driver can be completed. > > Hooray. > > I hope Andy gets them backed up at some service prior to having the tapes read out, > but he has been in business so he has his stuff down pretty well. > > I wonder if the hardware is same operation where the tape is an audio tape and the > tape data is converted by a chip to appear to be readable character text on the > monitor when a player is playing the game. Ramtek Trivia which was released in 1975 > does it that way.
Hooray indeedy, good find.
Yes I think the hw works that way (very simple too) *edit* nevermind that, i misunderstood your description
Edited by hap (01/25/14 10:39 AM)
|
|
|
MASH |
MASH
|
|
|
Reged: 09/26/03
|
Posts: 1780
|
Loc: Germany
|
|
Send PM
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: Smitdogg]
#320919 - 01/25/14 09:13 AM
|
|
|
> Also thanks to donations we got a very expensive collection of Tourvision carts which > are going to Charles to be dumped.
Amazing stuff... I like it
Gomola Speed (UPL) Jackie Chan (Hudson Soft) Columns (Sega) Aero Blasters: Trouble Specialty Raid Unit (Hudson Soft) PC Genjin 2 (Hudson Soft)
Power Eleven (Hudson Soft) Final Lap Twin (Namco) Formation Soccer - Human Cup '90 (Human) Super Star Soldier (Hudson Soft) Volfied (Taito)
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: MASH]
#320920 - 01/25/14 10:39 AM
|
|
|
> > Also thanks to donations we got a very expensive collection of Tourvision carts > which > > are going to Charles to be dumped. > > Amazing stuff... I like it > > Gomola Speed (UPL) > Jackie Chan (Hudson Soft) > Columns (Sega) > Aero Blasters: Trouble Specialty Raid Unit (Hudson Soft) > PC Genjin 2 (Hudson Soft) > > Power Eleven (Hudson Soft) > Final Lap Twin (Namco) > Formation Soccer - Human Cup '90 (Human) > Super Star Soldier (Hudson Soft) > Volfied (Taito)
just don't expect marvels: tourvision carts found so far are just the TG16/PCE versions of the games (just packed in a different shell) it's interesting for preservation purpose, of course, and to document which games were actually released for the tourvision
|
|
|
Dullaron |
Mitchell or Dunard Garaus
|
|
|
Reged: 07/22/05
|
Posts: 6139
|
Loc: Fort Worth, Tx
|
|
Send PM
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: MASH]
#320922 - 01/25/14 01:32 PM
|
|
|
> > Also thanks to donations we got a very expensive collection of Tourvision carts > which > > are going to Charles to be dumped. > > Amazing stuff... I like it > > Gomola Speed (UPL) > Jackie Chan (Hudson Soft) > Columns (Sega) > Aero Blasters: Trouble Specialty Raid Unit (Hudson Soft) > PC Genjin 2 (Hudson Soft) > > Power Eleven (Hudson Soft) > Final Lap Twin (Namco) > Formation Soccer - Human Cup '90 (Human) > Super Star Soldier (Hudson Soft) > Volfied (Taito)
Been so long since I play the Columns (Sega) game on the Genesis. I use to stay up playing it at my dad and mom place.
|
W11 Home 64-bit + Nobara OS / AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT / AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core 3.59 GHz / RAM 64 GB
|
|
CTOJAH |
MAME Addict
|
|
|
Reged: 07/13/10
|
Posts: 980
|
Loc: Macedonia,Veles
|
|
Send PM
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: Smitdogg]
#320924 - 01/25/14 02:00 PM
|
|
|
Oh ! TourVision... ...I was hoping for Parasol Stars to pop up... ...and finally to solve mistery if it was or wasn't ?! Nice find ! Thank You for everything You doing for MAME community.
|
|
|
Stiletto |
They're always after me Lucky ROMS!
|
|
|
Reged: 03/07/04
|
Posts: 6472
|
|
|
Send PM
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: CTOJAH]
#320925 - 01/25/14 02:31 PM
|
|
|
> Oh ! TourVision... > ...I was hoping for Parasol Stars to pop up... ...and finally to solve mistery if it > was or wasn't ?!
Sold on eBay... http://www.ebay.com/itm/111224284870
- Stiletto
|
|
|
gregf |
Ramtek's Trivia promoter
|
|
|
Reged: 09/21/03
|
Posts: 8634
|
Loc: southern CA, US
|
|
Send PM
|
|
|
Ramtek Trivia
[Re: hap]
#320937 - 01/25/14 10:00 PM
|
|
|
>>I wonder if the hardware is same operation where the tape is an audio tape and the >>tape data is converted by a chip to appear to be readable character text on the >>monitor when a player is playing the game. Ramtek Trivia which was released in 1975 >>does it that way.
>*edit* nevermind that, i misunderstood your description
Heh. It's a bit more involved than what the cab appears to be when first looking at the cab.
The pcb has a 2513N ASCII Character Generator chip and that is used to generate ASCII images from the audio data that is played on the Trivia 8 track data tapes.
There is one known prom chip type 6331 (at location E3 or 3E) on the Trivia pcb. The prom contains text data that is displayed describing the players results: good, bad, terrible etc.
The remaining text and numbers is generated from the tapes or circuit components on the Trivia pcb.
After looking at Quiz Show manual, it appears Quiz Show does not use a 2513N ASCII Character Generator chip. Quiz Show handles displaying the questions data from tape in a different manner compared to Ramtek's Trivia. I forgot that Quiz Show is a dual board hardware game.
Here is an excerpt of a thread from summer 2008 (only italie and mw's posts saved) when there was a thread dealing with Trivia pcb and Trivia tape cartridges. This was about 5 months before Ramtek Trivia logic schematics were found because only had Ramtek Trivia manual which barely helps aside from the wiring diagram.
-- Datasheet Gurus....I need any info that you can find on a 2513N Character Generator 08/17/08 03:45 AM
Here is all I know so far, which is a bit less that I need.
2513N ASCII Character Generator
Specsheet / Datasheet
Display Mode=Row Scan
No. of Char.=64
Bits Per Char.=40
No. of Outputs=5
t(a) Max. (s) Access Time=600n
P(D) Max.(W) Power Dissipation=730m
Nom. Supp (V)=5.0
Status=Discontinued
Package=DIP
Pins=24
Technology=PMOS
Re: Datasheet Gurus....I need any info that you can find on a 2513N Character Generator 08/17/08 05:48 AM
Just one, fed by or feeding two 2101 Rams. There is also an few NE565A PLL ICs, and a few tiny unknown eeproms or PICs, don't want peel the marking tape off just yet.
Other than that, it's pretty run of the mill 74 series ICs, a couple oddballs here and ther like a 7445s
Re: Minor breakthrough 08/19/08 02:05 AM
> That seems like you've cracked it, but the map is a slight off? or just bit errors. > I'm eager to see what the outcome is. h = ? and p=linefeed?
I haven't got all the answers yet, but here's the pattern I found:
Code:
Each packet: "0" start bit six data bits, lsb on left one extra bit - purpose undetermined as of yet. "1" "set" bit - parity position? "1" stop bitMapped with char table (from data sheet): @ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ[\]^_ !"#$%&'()*+,-./0123456789:;<=>? example:00101000110100000011011000001101101000110000001011011010001100100100110100000011 0101000 1000000 1100000 1101000 0000010 1101000 0100100 1000000 10 1 3 11 32 11 18 1 J A C K (space) K R A
I'll decode the other samples and upload in a few more minutes.
By the way, the latest .wav file you posted is 44 mb, it'll take me a little while to download it. In the meantime, I'll cut a chunk off of it and see how it looks.
Edit:
The other samples show signs of decoding with more sports trivia, but they need to be 10-bit alligned first. That's going to take a little while. Just a heads up. Feel free to decode your own from the previously attached "bins.zip" file. I'm going to investigate the 7th bit and see if it does some kind of formatting first.
Edited by mw (08/19/08 02:18 AM)
--
Edited by gregf (01/25/14 10:16 PM)
|
|
|
|
Re: Ramtek Trivia
[Re: gregf]
#320939 - 01/25/14 11:14 PM
|
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: Smitdogg]
#320958 - 01/26/14 06:30 PM
|
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: MASH]
#320961 - 01/26/14 08:12 PM
|
|
|
> > Also thanks to donations we got a very expensive collection of Tourvision carts > which > > are going to Charles to be dumped. > > Amazing stuff... I like it > > Gomola Speed (UPL) > Jackie Chan (Hudson Soft) > Columns (Sega) > Aero Blasters: Trouble Specialty Raid Unit (Hudson Soft) > PC Genjin 2 (Hudson Soft) > > Power Eleven (Hudson Soft) > Final Lap Twin (Namco) > Formation Soccer - Human Cup '90 (Human) > Super Star Soldier (Hudson Soft) > Volfied (Taito)
And still no Final Match Tennis, which was sacrificed by Guru
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: gregf]
#320963 - 01/26/14 08:27 PM
|
|
|
> If the wanted list is correct, and after the latest cartridges (in photo) are > supported, there are a couple other cartridge titles still missing. > > > Final Match Tennis > Formation Soccer > Out Run > After Burner > Final Lap > Columns > Power Sports > Saigo no Nindou > Son Son II
Final Lap Twin (Namco) should be the same as Final Lap in the list, since there's no more Final Lap titles on PC Engine.
Formation Soccer - Human Cup '90 (Human) is the same as Formation Soccer.
Columns (Sega) is the same as Columns.
The rest are missing, yes.
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: F1ReB4LL]
#320969 - 01/26/14 10:37 PM
|
|
|
> > > Also thanks to donations we got a very expensive collection of Tourvision carts > > which > > > are going to Charles to be dumped. > > > > Amazing stuff... I like it > > > > Gomola Speed (UPL) > > Jackie Chan (Hudson Soft) > > Columns (Sega) > > Aero Blasters: Trouble Specialty Raid Unit (Hudson Soft) > > PC Genjin 2 (Hudson Soft) > > > > Power Eleven (Hudson Soft) > > Final Lap Twin (Namco) > > Formation Soccer - Human Cup '90 (Human) > > Super Star Soldier (Hudson Soft) > > Volfied (Taito) > > And still no Final Match Tennis, which was sacrificed by Guru
Final Match Tennis is playable on a PCG Engine emulator. I would not worry about waiting for it to come on MAME.
As for Guru, I would just forgot about him. The DU sent him several boards in the past and he refuses to dump some of them for MAME. Either he is waiting at the very last minute dumping them or he just won't get them dumped. Most notably, Wyvern F-0.
|
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: gamerfan]
#320972 - 01/26/14 11:04 PM
|
|
|
> As for Guru, I would just forgot about him. The DU sent him several boards in the > past and he refuses to dump some of them for MAME. Either he is waiting at the very > last minute dumping them or he just won't get them dumped. Most notably, Wyvern F-0.
Yes, I know. And, in any case, this cart was destroyed by him, not hoarded (he needed to open it to find out what's inside, it was around 2005, IIRC).
|
|
|
Dullaron |
Mitchell or Dunard Garaus
|
|
|
Reged: 07/22/05
|
Posts: 6139
|
Loc: Fort Worth, Tx
|
|
Send PM
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: F1ReB4LL]
#320973 - 01/26/14 11:58 PM
|
|
|
> > As for Guru, I would just forgot about him. The DU sent him several boards in the > > past and he refuses to dump some of them for MAME. Either he is waiting at the very > > last minute dumping them or he just won't get them dumped. Most notably, Wyvern > F-0. > > Yes, I know. And, in any case, this cart was destroyed by him, not hoarded (he needed > to open it to find out what's inside, it was around 2005, IIRC).
Is this why bring up in 2013 on that game? http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...part=1&vc=1 Trying to recover it?
|
W11 Home 64-bit + Nobara OS / AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT / AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 8-Core 3.59 GHz / RAM 64 GB
|
|
|
Re: DU January News Roundup
[Re: Dullaron]
#320974 - 01/27/14 12:12 AM
|
|
|
|