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Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing
#311055 - 07/03/13 11:46 PM





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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: Gor]
#311062 - 07/04/13 01:27 AM


"No, your honor, I just don't know how to work this thing."

The only evidence I've heard *against* him is the 911 call, where he was told that they "didn't need" for him to follow the person.



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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: TriggerFin]
#311063 - 07/04/13 01:28 AM


> "No, your honor, I just don't know how to work this thing."
>
> The only evidence I've heard *against* him is the 911 call, where he was told that
> they "didn't need" for him to follow the person.

So the fact that he killed an unarmed teenager isn't evidence against him? Fuck trigger-happy America.



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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: Matty_]
#311068 - 07/04/13 02:47 AM


> > "No, your honor, I just don't know how to work this thing."
> >
> > The only evidence I've heard *against* him is the 911 call, where he was told that
> > they "didn't need" for him to follow the person.
>
> So the fact that he killed an unarmed teenager isn't evidence against him? Fuck
> trigger-happy America.

So, you would just let the guy beat you to death, because he isn't using a weapon? Sounds like a great plan.



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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: TriggerFin]
#311069 - 07/04/13 03:00 AM


> > So the fact that he killed an unarmed teenager isn't evidence against him? Fuck
> > trigger-happy America.
>
> So, you would just let the guy beat you to death, because he isn't using a weapon?
> Sounds like a great plan.

I still haven't seen any evidence that Martin attacked him first. Zimmerman got out of his car, chased Martin, and initiated the confrontation that ended in Martin's death. Zimmerman had a history of aggressive behaviour, including assaulting a police officer and domestic violence. I really don't buy the self-defence story.



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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: Gor]
#311070 - 07/04/13 04:05 AM


These are the people who have the power to decide your fate...



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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: Gor]
#311072 - 07/04/13 04:39 AM


The new troll face?




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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: Matty_]
#311082 - 07/04/13 11:00 AM


> > > So the fact that he killed an unarmed teenager isn't evidence against him? Fuck
> > > trigger-happy America.
> >
> > So, you would just let the guy beat you to death, because he isn't using a weapon?
> > Sounds like a great plan.
>
> I still haven't seen any evidence that Martin attacked him first. Zimmerman got out
> of his car, chased Martin, and initiated the confrontation that ended in Martin's
> death.

Like I said, have you seen any actual evidence of that? "Initiated the confrontation" is rather different than "attacked." Following him initiates the confrontation.

The source I heard -calling him guilty for having loaded his gun- said M hid from Z, who was following him, and jumped him, not knowing he had said gun. then the idiot radio guy presented the audio from the call.

Now go back, look at my post. I said "the only evidence I've heard..." because, in fact, that WAS the only thing I've heard of the case AT ALL. Even in this thread, the video contains no information during the portion of it I could stand to watch.



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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: TriggerFin]
#311100 - 07/05/13 01:42 AM


> Like I said, have you seen any actual evidence of that? "Initiated the confrontation"
> is rather different than "attacked." Following him initiates the confrontation.

Well assuming M threw the first punch, from his point of view he was defending himself against some psycho who was chasing him through the neighbourhood he was staying in temporarily. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, why are you so sure it was an "attack" as such?

> The source I heard -calling him guilty for having loaded his gun- said M hid from Z,
> who was following him, and jumped him, not knowing he had said gun. then the idiot
> radio guy presented the audio from the call.

Sure, loading his gun doesn't automatically make him guilty. But see above: "jumping" some psycho who's chasing you for no apparent reason sounds a lot like a defensive move to me.

> Now go back, look at my post. I said "the only evidence I've heard..." because, in
> fact, that WAS the only thing I've heard of the case AT ALL. Even in this thread, the
> video contains no information during the portion of it I could stand to watch.

I still consider the dead body of an unarmed teenage to be evidence against him. It's awfully convenient that dead men tell no tales. If you want to go down the path of accepting the self defence argument in the absence of bulletproof evidence to the contrary, you end up with a situation where the best course of action in a situation where you may be in the wrong is to kill the other guy so you can claim self defence and walk free.



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Re: Zimmerman Trial Skype Bombing new [Re: Matty_]
#311195 - 07/07/13 05:22 PM


The burden of proof does now, always has been, and always will, lie with the prosecution. He doesn't have to prove it was self defense, they have to prove that it wasn't.



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NOT GUILTY new [Re: URherenow]
#311491 - 07/14/13 04:19 AM


Now to see what happens from here.

https://plus.google.com/105956749420987166455/posts/UAEeUA5ZA6m



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Re: NOT GUILTY new [Re: Qun Mang]
#311493 - 07/14/13 05:04 AM


> Now to see what happens from here.
>
> https://plus.google.com/105956749420987166455/posts/UAEeUA5ZA6m

I'm a little surprised, I figured he'd get the lesser manslaughter charge. Hopefully the ugly fallout from this is not widespread.



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Re: NOT GUILTY new [Re: Qun Mang]
#311494 - 07/14/13 05:20 AM


I hope they put up their hurricane shutters in Sanford.



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Re: NOT GUILTY new [Re: Qun Mang]
#311495 - 07/14/13 06:26 AM


> Now to see what happens from here.
>
> https://plus.google.com/105956749420987166455/posts/UAEeUA5ZA6m

He'll have to make himself scarce, like Casey Anthony.



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