I sure hope they find the pukes responsible for this. I had the day off today and we were just coming home from the supermarket when we heard the report on the car radio. Hats off to the folks that came to the aid of the wounded without hesitation.
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> I sure hope they find the pukes responsible for this. I had the day off today and we > were just coming home from the supermarket when we heard the report on the car radio. > Hats off to the folks that came to the aid of the wounded without hesitation.
It's unbelievable. Some of the video and pictures being posted are sickening. This shit is not supposed to happen here.
I decided to work from home today, because I didn't want to deal with any traffic. It's usually not bad, as my office is pretty far from where all the marathon action is, but you never know. Little did I know what a good idea that would be.
I know a woman who finished about 22 minutes before the explosion. I had followed her progress throughout the race, and was pretty worried about her until word got out that she was back in her hotel room and OK. I've run with her; she's encouraged me to run longer distances. To think she could have been hurt or killed while she did something she loved just because someone else was a dick was really upsetting.
> It's unbelievable. Some of the video and pictures being posted are sickening. This > shit is not supposed to happen here.
Key word in this sentence is "here" and that makes me sad. So it's supposed to happen in other places, because it's OK when it's just brown people? It’s not supposed to happen at all. US and Australia have just been pretty lucky that they haven't had much of it in the last century. Even UK had the IRA.
Understand what you are saying. Being in EMS, we've always heard that they don't know if there will ever be a 'large scale' incident like 9/11 again. But they say that look out for smaller ones.
> Key word in this sentence is "here" and that makes me sad. So it's supposed to happen > in other places, because it's OK when it's just brown people? It’s not supposed to > happen at all. US and Australia have just been pretty lucky that they haven't had > much of it in the last century. Even UK had the IRA.
I was being at least somewhat facetious. By "here" I really sort of meant "in the place where I am". You see enough death and destruction on the news and after a while you start to get the sense that it's something that only happens in other places, to other people. I suppose that's still somewhat true for me in this case, but this one hits a lot closer to home. I've almost certainly walked right through the areas where the bombs went off at some point. It's been a number of years now, but I've stood in that same area and watched people crossing the finish line. It's scary to think that some of those people being hauled out with their legs blown off are people I could have passed on the street last week.
Agreed, it shouldn't happen anywhere. As far as I'm concerned "here" is my wonderful country where you can worship anything freely. Blowing each other up is not the norm here. It is expected in countries where they indoctrinate children into the world of hatred. I guess that never disappoints you.
> Well it shouldn't happen anywhere. As far as I'm concerned "here" is my wonderful > country where you can worship anything freely. Blowing each other up is not the norm > here. It is expected in countries where they indoctrinate children into the world of > hatred. I guess that never disappoints you.
Oh boy... anyway....
*gives a nod towards Hizzout*
Terrible and sad that this happened. Wonder if it had anything to do with the bombing drill they allegedly/coincidentally had planned? With the bomb sniffing dogs at the start and finish lines before the race started....?
> Agreed, it shouldn't happen anywhere. As far as I'm concerned "here" is my wonderful > country where you can worship anything freely. Blowing each other up is not the norm > here. It is expected in countries where they indoctrinate children into the world of > hatred. I guess that never disappoints you.
The west teaches people to hate plenty. Look at all the hate spewed towards "liberals", "abos", "niggers", "communists", "socialists", people who are "un-American" or "un-Australian", even "kids these days", "emofags", etc. You're right that blowing each other up isn't the norm, although it happens occasionally (e.g. Waco), but if you think it's an idyllic paradise you're deluding yourself.
> Terrible and sad that this happened. Wonder if it had anything to do with the bombing > drill they allegedly/coincidentally had planned? With the bomb sniffing dogs at the > start and finish lines before the race started....? > > What are they up to? > > http://www.globalresearch.ca/boston-mara...b-squad/5331505
I really hope this was an attempt to be funny. The controlled explosion was the bomb squad detonating a third device. And bomb sniffing dogs have been at the race every year since 2002.
I swear if anyone uses the term "false flag" in my presence, they are going to get bitchslapped into the next century.
Quote: By "here" I really sort of meant "in the place where I am". You see enough death and destruction on the news and after a while you start to get the sense that it's something that only happens in other places, to other people
This is exactly how I understood what you said. I felt the same way with Columbine, and then with the Aurora theater shootings. Colorado, and more specifically the Denver metro area is clean, safe, and for the most part people are very friendly here. Littleton, where Columbine High is a quiet suburb with upper-middle to upper class homes and businesses. You would NEVER think that something of the magnitude that occurred would ever happen there.
Aurora...while not exactly the best part of the metro area was still shocking because you would have expected maybe gang shootings (which happened at that same mall a couple of years prior...my wife missed that one by 5 minutes) but never would you have expected what happened, and to such a seemingly random crowd.
DMala never said anything about it being OK overseas, and he never even hinted at a racial undertone. The words "brown people" were basically put in his mouth.
Death and horrific things happen all over the world every minute of every day. The Boston marathon bombing is shocking because it's so seemingly random. It's not in a war zone or war torn region. The targets were civilians who, at the time were probably not thinking about anything political, racial, or religious. They were not rioting or in the middle of an uprising. They were cheering on participants in a marathon and many were hurt, and some died while at an event when spirits and moods were good and being there and participating in safety is generally assumed. That is why this is shocking.
> > Terrible and sad that this happened. Wonder if it had anything to do with the > bombing > > drill they allegedly/coincidentally had planned? With the bomb sniffing dogs at the > > start and finish lines before the race started....? > > > > What are they up to? > > > > > http://www.globalresearch.ca/boston-mara...b-squad/5331505 > > I really hope this was an attempt to be funny.
Why would anybody joke about something like this?
> The controlled explosion was the bomb > squad detonating a third device. And bomb sniffing dogs have been at the race every > year since 2002. > > I swear if anyone uses the term "false flag" in my presence, they are going to get > bitchslapped into the next century.
Aren't "Drills" usually preplanned? Setting off a live explosive isn't a drill - it's the real thing. So why would (whoever threw the term "drill" out there) do that?
Maybe they set up a "safe"? bomb to get practice disarming the others that hadn't went off yet...? Again, not trying to be funny. Just trying to understand what was going on.
If these bombs had already went off - why waste time piddling around with a fake/controlled bomb? Again, I don't know the order of events here. For all I know the "Drill" could have been planned weeks in advance as a training exercise. If so - wouldn't that make anyone wonder why and how real bombs that hurt/injured and killed people went off at the same time as this "drill"?
One can think terrorists knew of the drill beforehand and planted real bombs in other places to coincide the drill for the bomb squad.
Or the bombs placed for the drill.... Oh yeah. Don't want to get b. slapped.
I can't say it was a false flag. But anything out of the ordinary that happens... I've become highly skeptical/suspicious of. And if that makes you angry at ME... Don't get mad at me. Get mad at history.
And just so we're clear -whoever the culprit is- that will never lessen the tragedy of the victims. I could get just as angry at you for implying that I was joking. But I can understand if haven't realized our government can't be trusted.
Quote: Officials detonated an item near the Boston Marathon's original incident scene.
Boston law enforcement indicated on the emergency personnel radio scanner at 3:53 p.m. ET that they would be conducting a controlled explosion on the 600 block of Boylston Street, near the Copley Square site of the original explosions that rocked the Boston Marathon earlier Monday afternoon. The explosion occurred around 3:55 p.m. ET.
I can admit I might be looking too deeply into the term of "drill". If the 'Controlled Detonation' is what the term 'Drill' is referring to... Then I can't be blamed for making that assumption. I was only going by what I've read.
*then you realize how pointless it is to point fingers at who may or may have not done it*
I'll still try to look for anything regarding a preplanned "drill" -which one would assume it was preplanned if it was indeed a drill. Nothing wrong with asking questions.
>but if you think it's an idyllic paradise you're deluding yourself.
I didn't say it was. The US is turning to shit. We are slowly becoming a country of freeloaders, which infuriates me. I have plenty to gripe about with my own countryman. We also have may black eyes from atrocities committed here in the past. In modern times though it is just the opposite, we are the most giving country on the planet....famine...tsunamis, you name it, the US is the first to open its checkbook.
As far as the hatred you mention, yes it exists everywhere (and always will). The difference is that it is frowned upon by my government/schools/business. I was ALWAYS taught tolerance. I wasn't assembling my first IED in elementary school as they do in other places.
I do love your country. Aussies rock! The closest thing you can get to the US.
The article you linked is a joke. It's wild speculation based entirely on a tweet from the Boston Globe. There are so many things wrong with it, I almost don't know where to begin. I was hoping maybe you weren't actually taking it seriously.
First of all, even the article doesn't use the word "drill". The phrase they use, taken from the Boston Globe tweet, was "bomb squad activities". That information came right off the police radio, I was listening to the scanner myself when that went out. I think the wording was an awkward attempt to use a euphemism to avoid directly saying "The bomb squad is blowing stuff up" on the air. In context at the time, it was pretty clear that it meant the bomb squad was going to detonate a suspicious package. In fact, I'm not even sure the third explosion actually happened. The radio message was more like, "Don't panic if you hear something, that's just us." Everything else I saw about it came from this message, I never saw anything from anyone who saw or heard a third explosion firsthand.
So my problem with this article is they take one tiny tidbit of information with virtually no context, make some bad assumptions about it (you could hit the library with a rock from the bomb site, it's nowhere close to a mile), and then run off to crazytown.
My comment about false flags wasn't necessarily directed at you. It's come up several times recently from the lunatic fringe (including at the governor's press conference, which he shut down handily) and it's just an irritating distraction when there are much more important things to worry about. Here's my basic problem with all conspiracy theories: a few administrations ago, the president got his dick sucked in the oval office. The only people present for the incident were the sucker and the suckee, and yet somehow, within months, the *entire* country knew every last intimate detail of that encounter. If the President of the United States can't get his knob polished and keep it quiet, you mean to tell me that dozens or even hundreds of people can be involved with something as incendiary as a plot by the US Government to kill their own citizens, and no one breathes a word about it? I just don't believe it.
Well put DMaLa , I agree with you whole heartedly. I was wondering how long it was going to take to hear our government was responsible. YouTube should be interesting the next couple of months. I'm still looking for the plane that didn't hit the pentagon. I guess Elvis was flying it off to the moon that we didn't land on.
> This hate that you speak of.... > > Plane brought back to gate at Logan Airport > > GMAFB
So it's OK to take a plane back to the airport and escort people off because they speak a different language to you? You're saying that's not hate? How would you feel if the same happened to you? You spoke to your friend in a language you're both comfortable with, and they turned the plane around and dragged you off. You hadn't threatened anyone of broken any laws. Your language alone was sufficient grounds for suspicion. How is that right?
> I do love your country. Aussies rock! The closest thing you can get to the US.
I still don't feel that Australia is my country. It's a country I've lived in for decades, and there are definitely awesome people here, but there are so many fucking arseholes. I still get told, "go back to your own country, we don't want you here," by random strangers on the street occasionally when I'm just going about my business. I don't have to open my mouth or anything to provoke it, just walking down the street and I'm unwanted. Last year, two French women were singing on a bus, and a bunch of Aussies started threatening them, telling them they weren't wanted, and that they'd "cut their tits off" when they got off the bus. People who stood up for the French women got threatened. It got media attention that time because someone uploaded it to YouTube, but there are large areas of Melbourne where this kind of attitude is the norm. There are people who go "curry bashing" - looking for Indian international students to mug because they think they're wealthy easy targets. A Chinese guy was beaten almost to death about 2.5km from my Melbourne apartment just for being Chinese last year. The local police are now being investigated for unfairly targeting African men when statistically they aren't any more likely to commit crimes than anyone else in Flemington. It's a really prejudiced, angry country underneath the surface.
No wonder you're so angry. I grew up in the south (supposedly the most racist part of the states) and I've never seen anything remotely like that ever. I've never even seen someone call a black person the n word to their face. The most racist things I've ever seen here were not inviting someone to a party because they were black and some dipshit not wanting to share a joint with a black guy.
> No wonder you're so angry. I grew up in the south (supposedly the most racist part of > the states) and I've never seen anything remotely like that ever. I've never even > seen someone call a black person the n word to their face. The most racist things > I've ever seen here were not inviting someone to a party because they were black and > some dipshit not wanting to share a joint with a black guy.
Well if that's really what it's like, the US is a long way ahead of Australia in at least one area. Be thankful for it
> Um...I was agreeing with your point before...I was linking a story of unacceptable > behavior. > > YES THIS IS WRONG
Sorry, I thought GMAFB was addressed to me.
And sorry to everyone else I've offended here. FWIW I've been to USA for business (IEEE 802.11 working group back while 802.11n was in planning phase). The vast majority of the people I dealt with were pretty awesome. There were a few downers, though. The thing that sticks out was this time in Santa Monica when I wanted to use a payphone and didn't have change. Asking random strangers for change near payphones, vending machines, train ticket machines and other coin-operated apparatus is pretty normal in Australia. I had my wallet out, and when a random person walked by I held up some $1 bills and asked, "Got quarters?" She said, "I'll give you quarters because you're Australian, but it's not safe to open your wallet around here." Is it really that dangerous in Santa Monica? If so, that's sad in itself, and if it isn't really that dangerous, it's sad that she was so scared. Anyway, it's a trivial thing, but it's stuck in my mind.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I wasn't offended by anything you posted. Personally, I don't have any problem with a little spirited discussion of current events in the 'Bin. For me, banishment to the War Room is only warranted when threads devolve into 300 posts of people calling each other names, or when people bring up the same topics over and over again to the point of trolling.
> FWIW I've been to USA for business > (IEEE 802.11 working group back while 802.11n was in planning phase). The vast > majority of the people I dealt with were pretty awesome. There were a few downers, > though. The thing that sticks out was this time in Santa Monica when I wanted to use > a payphone and didn't have change. Asking random strangers for change near payphones, > vending machines, train ticket machines and other coin-operated apparatus is pretty > normal in Australia. I had my wallet out, and when a random person walked by I held > up some $1 bills and asked, "Got quarters?" She said, "I'll give you quarters because > you're Australian, but it's not safe to open your wallet around here." Is it really > that dangerous in Santa Monica? If so, that's sad in itself, and if it isn't really > that dangerous, it's sad that she was so scared. Anyway, it's a trivial thing, but > it's stuck in my mind.
The first issue is that you went to California, which is technically part of the US, but actually exists on a different plane of existence.
Second, in some cities, there is so much begging and panhandling that people automatically get weirded out by anyone asking for change. Even waving a bill doesn't help, because the classic scam is you ask for change, and once someone has their money out, you start in with the sob story about how you're just a couple of bucks short for a bus ticket or whatever, and wring a few dollars out of them. It's easier to just not bother than risk getting sucked in and have to try to disengage yourself. I know when I need change for something, I just go into a store and either ask for change if they seem nice, or else just buy a roll of mints and break the bill that way.
> Second, in some cities, there is so much begging and panhandling that people > automatically get weirded out by anyone asking for change. Even waving a bill doesn't > help, because the classic scam is you ask for change, and once someone has their > money out, you start in with the sob story about how you're just a couple of bucks > short for a bus ticket or whatever, and wring a few dollars out of them. It's easier > to just not bother than risk getting sucked in and have to try to disengage yourself. > I know when I need change for something, I just go into a store and either ask for > change if they seem nice, or else just buy a roll of mints and break the bill that > way.
Yeah, what D said. I live in the alternative plane of existence known as California, and agree with him - we have a lot of dicey panhandlers here, and there is an instant aversion we've developed to people asking for change on the street, and most other forms of public solicitation. Scams are rife.
Totally off-topic, but since we're here: In my experience, it's better to offer to buy or gift food to the truly downtrodden. The people who view you as a walking ATM will always refuse a literal free lunch, whereas the people who really need it always graciously accept. If they accept food, then I have no problem handing them a few bucks to help out as well.
> Totally off-topic, but since we're here: In my experience, it's better to offer to > buy or gift food to the truly downtrodden. The people who view you as a walking ATM > will always refuse a literal free lunch, whereas the people who really need it always > graciously accept. If they accept food, then I have no problem handing them a few > bucks to help out as well.
Yeah I agree on that point. If someone asks me if I've got spare change because they can't afford a rail or bus ticket, I'll ask them where to, and if they seem sincere enough I might buy them one from the ticket machine, but more often than not, they won't even be able to give a destination.
> I sometimes give out change without any further thought. I don't care if their > destination is Drunk, USA. Often we're heading the same place in fact.
Haha reminds me of this guy I used to know who had a policy of always giving people who approached him for change a $2 coin. He figured if the guy was genuine, they’d only need four people doing that to get a cheap meal (this was back when you could get good phở for $6.60), and if the guy wasn’t, well getting scammed for $2 is nothing anyway.
One night he gave a guy $2 as he was walking from the station to violin class. On the way back he stopped at the pub for a beer, and the guy who he’d given the $2 to earlier ended up having a beer next to him at the bar. So yeah, it’s quite possible that you’re going exactly to exactly the same place.
I certainly hope not. I hope the bums I deal with are smart enough to know you go to a gas station to buy beer on a bum salary. A bum going to a pub is full retard. Everybody knows you never go full retard.
Wow, that blew my mind for a second. I thought it was the high school kid who ended up on the cover of the New York Post, and he got killed because someone thought he was the bomber. That would be too horrible for words. It sucks that this guy's name got dragged through the mud for no reason, but at least his death had nothing to do with the bombings.
> I sometimes give out change without any further thought. I don't care if their > destination is Drunk, USA. Often we're heading the same place in fact.
I don't really care that much what they do with the money, but when I first moved to Boston as a doe-eyed and naive Northeastern freshman, I got cornered by an older woman who was panhandling. I figured I'd be a nice guy and give her a couple of dollars, and by the time I got out of there, she had talked me out of 20 bucks. Since learning that lesson, I never take out any kind of money in that situation, as a rule. "Sorry, I don't have any cash on me." Sometimes it's even true. If and when I feel compelled to help the homeless, I'll donate to a shelter.
Well that is kind of/often different. Mostly what I've heard is a request for change, at which point it's an ask for loose change if I happen to have it, not paper dollars. There have been a couple of times where I knew all I had was 1-2 dollars and I pulled them out "wth" but never a twinny.
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