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DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme
#302561 - 01/14/13 10:52 PM





I got another undumped hack of Street Fighter II CE. It has treacherous custom protection from a hacked up Altera chip hidden under the C board.











http://www.sendspace.com/file/f770mt




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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302563 - 01/14/13 11:39 PM


尼斯的工作!



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302568 - 01/15/13 12:47 AM


this game runs in sf2 ce bootlegs too



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302569 - 01/15/13 01:21 AM


> I got another undumped hack of Street Fighter II CE. It has treacherous custom
> protection from a hacked up Altera chip hidden under the C board.
>
>
> http://www.sendspace.com/file/f770mt

That one rom with the Chinese Characters on it.

Does it say "The East (as in East Asia) doesn't lose?"



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Master O]
#302570 - 01/15/13 01:26 AM


No idea. If anyone can translate it we can name the set after it.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302578 - 01/15/13 02:33 AM


> I got another undumped hack of Street Fighter II CE. It has treacherous custom
> protection from a hacked up Altera chip hidden under the C board.
>
>
> http://www.sendspace.com/file/f770mt

Ooooo! Protection. I'd love to take a crack at it whenever you get it dumped. ^^



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: iq_132]
#302579 - 01/15/13 02:35 AM


All socketed roms always means immediately dumped for me. It was dumped before I posted about it. I don't know where your email is so you can email me and I can reply with it if you want.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302580 - 01/15/13 02:38 AM


> All socketed roms always means immediately dumped for me. It was dumped before I
> posted about it. I don't know where your email is so you can email me and I can reply
> with it if you want.

PM sent.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Master O]
#302583 - 01/15/13 05:02 AM


> > I got another undumped hack of Street Fighter II CE. It has treacherous custom
> > protection from a hacked up Altera chip hidden under the C board.
> >
> >
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/f770mt
>
> That one rom with the Chinese Characters on it.
>
> Does it say "The East (as in East Asia) doesn't lose?"

It's not a ROM, it's a 450-gate CPLD. Anyway, Google Translate thinks "東方不敗" means "swordsman" in Chinese, although I don't know how accurate that is (yes, Google thinks "東方" means "Orient" and "不敗" means unbeaten).

edit: apparently it's the traditional Chinese for Dongfang Bubai's name. According to Wikipedia, "his name has become synonymous with homosexuality and sexual perversion in Chinese popular culture." Interesting - a perverted chip.

Edited by Vas Crabb (01/15/13 06:19 AM)



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: iq_132]
#302587 - 01/15/13 06:16 AM Attachment: 0016.png 11 KB (0 downloads)


> > All socketed roms always means immediately dumped for me. It was dumped before I
> > posted about it. I don't know where your email is so you can email me and I can
> reply
> > with it if you want.
>
> PM sent.

Turns out to be dirt simple protection.

The game expects to read #$0200 from $180000 and #$0210 from $1f7040.

Other than that, it looks like it runs on standard sf2ce hardware just fine. ^^
I need to play through it a bit to ensure that it doesn't touch the protection anywhere else. btw, any ideas on a set name?

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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: iq_132]
#302588 - 01/15/13 06:21 AM


> Other than that, it looks like it runs on standard sf2ce hardware just fine. ^^
> I need to play through it a bit to ensure that it doesn't touch the protection
> anywhere else. btw, any ideas on a set name?

Street Fighter II': Champion Edition (Dongfang Bubai protection, bootleg)



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: iq_132]
#302589 - 01/15/13 06:29 AM


' btw, any ideas on a set name?'

How about, 'sf2gash#'?

"great, another shitty hack" and # can be from wherever you wish to start at with the nearly infinite # of other seemingly self-replicating viral incarnations of this horrible game.

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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Master O]
#302591 - 01/15/13 06:34 AM


> > I got another undumped hack of Street Fighter II CE. It has treacherous custom
> > protection from a hacked up Altera chip hidden under the C board.
> >
> >
> > http://www.sendspace.com/file/f770mt
>
> That one rom with the Chinese Characters on it.
>
> Does it say "The East (as in East Asia) doesn't lose?"

You were kind of close from the link provided below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dongfang_Bubai

東方不敗 = Literal meaning "Invincible East"



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Bad A Billy]
#302593 - 01/15/13 07:16 AM


http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...part=1&vc=1



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Vas Crabb]
#302594 - 01/15/13 07:18 AM


> > > I got another undumped hack of Street Fighter II CE. It has treacherous custom
> > > protection from a hacked up Altera chip hidden under the C board.
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.sendspace.com/file/f770mt
> >
> > That one rom with the Chinese Characters on it.
> >
> > Does it say "The East (as in East Asia) doesn't lose?"
>
> It's not a ROM, it's a 450-gate CPLD. Anyway, Google Translate thinks
> "東方不敗" means "swordsman" in Chinese, although I don't
> know how accurate that is (yes, Google thinks "東方" means "Orient" and
> "不敗" means unbeaten).
>
> edit: apparently it's the traditional Chinese for Dongfang Bubai's name. According to
> Wikipedia, "his name has become synonymous with homosexuality and sexual perversion
> in Chinese popular culture." Interesting - a perverted chip.

I think by perverted, they mean perverting its original code, just as Dongfang Bubai is sexually perverted. Interesting inside joke on the bootlegger's part.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302599 - 01/15/13 08:51 AM


> http://www.mameworld.info/ubbthreads/sho...part=1&vc=1

That will work.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: iq_132]
#302604 - 01/15/13 12:43 PM


> Turns out to be dirt simple protection.
>
> The game expects to read #$0200 from $180000 and #$0210 from $1f7040.

I assume that there is more to the CPLD than that & earlier reads cause it to trigger those results. Otherwise there would be no problem with just dumping it as an eprom and burning it.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: ]
#302605 - 01/15/13 02:50 PM


> > Turns out to be dirt simple protection.
> >
> > The game expects to read #$0200 from $180000 and #$0210 from $1f7040.
>
> I assume that there is more to the CPLD than that & earlier reads cause it to trigger
> those results. Otherwise there would be no problem with just dumping it as an eprom
> and burning it.

It only ever reads those two addresses. Smittdog, fancy trying to read it as an eprom? I could probably knock out an algo for whatever it returns, as long as the results are constant.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302611 - 01/15/13 06:20 PM


is possible run this game in final crash hardware? (based in magic delta turbo)

ps:
Street Fighter II': Champion Edition (Invencible warrior, bootleg)

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Street Fighter II': Champion Edition (Rainbow alternative, bootleg)



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: iq_132]
#302618 - 01/15/13 07:57 PM


It won't read out as what is supposed to go there (27C4096). I will not try to solder 20 wires to it to make fake pins. I've tried that before on a chip losing much fewer legs and I can't do it. The wires don't stick well enough to get a read, not when the break is this far down, even if you try sanding the chip to get more metal showing. If you have some other eprom type I can read it out as in its current form I can try that, and just bypass the insertion complaints. But it's not going to work either way.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: fortuna_chan]
#302620 - 01/15/13 08:02 PM


It would be possible to get any SF2 set to run on any SF2 hardware so long as you hacked up the roms to compensate for protection and hardware changes. As for straight dropping the roms sans the Altera chip, that won't even work on official hardware. You would have to hack the program to integrate what the Altera chip does. Like when we made the MK Kombo sets hacked to inklude what the gal was doing so you don't need the daughter kard for a konversion.




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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Vas Crabb]
#302623 - 01/15/13 09:35 PM


> > Other than that, it looks like it runs on standard sf2ce hardware just fine. ^^
> > I need to play through it a bit to ensure that it doesn't touch the protection
> > anywhere else. btw, any ideas on a set name?
>
> Street Fighter II': Champion Edition (Dongfang Bubai protection, bootleg)

So "sf2dongb" it is



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: R. Belmont]
#302646 - 01/16/13 12:55 AM


> > > Other than that, it looks like it runs on standard sf2ce hardware just fine. ^^
> > > I need to play through it a bit to ensure that it doesn't touch the protection
> > > anywhere else. btw, any ideas on a set name?
> >
> > Street Fighter II': Champion Edition (Dongfang Bubai protection, bootleg)
>
> So "sf2dongb" it is

Haha. Ok. I'll get the submission around.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: R. Belmont]
#302674 - 01/16/13 04:16 PM


"Dong, where is my automobile?"



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That chinese words remind me an old movie. new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302751 - 01/17/13 01:41 PM


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103295/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

A Street fighter II' CE with "Dong Fang Bu Bai" CHIP!!!

Someone uploaded whole movie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yedr4R8LCWw

Young Jet Li and Brigitte Lin. (She is almost 60 years old now.)

Edited by 30yk (01/17/13 01:51 PM)



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302775 - 01/17/13 11:28 PM


Thank you mans for preserve this sort of "underated" things.
Do you know any good place to have a review of special moves/features of almost all hacks and bootlegs of the old era sf2? There are a large number of versions.

Peace.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Rockman]
#302776 - 01/17/13 11:30 PM


Not really. Maybe shoryuken has done it, someone in their forums. I don't know.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Smitdogg]
#302887 - 01/19/13 02:40 PM


Ok thanks smith, I have to test it all, the non-mame hacks :P

And, maybe is a nerd question, but why the mamedevs don't like to include the new dumped hacks, and official mame is full of sf2ce hacks as koryu, m2,m3,.....m1000?¿

:S

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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Rockman]
#302889 - 01/19/13 03:06 PM


> Ok thanks smith, I have to test it all, the non-mame hacks :P
>
> And, maybe is a nerd question, but why the mamedevs don't like to include the new
> dumped hacks, and official mame is full of sf2ce hacks as koryu, m2,m3,.....m1000?¿
>
> :S
>
> Peace.

It's not that MAME doesn't want these, it is just not as high on the immediate priority list for most developers. I myself tried to add one of the last 3.. "mstreet-6" or whatever it was and I failed to add it. It takes more than normal replace this with that skills to add some clones either due to new rom configs or added data. I gave it the 'college try'. External contributions are welcome from anyone who can add these sets, of course.



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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Tafoid]
#302926 - 01/20/13 10:31 AM


Hi Tafoid,

couldn't send you a PM because of this message:
"This user is not accepting private messages."

So i did make here a normal reply
You added clone T.T.Fitter from Zab to thepit.c driver and the description
has 1 bracket too much ==> "T.T.Fitter (bootleg of Roundup))"


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Re: DU Update: The King of Street Fighter II Reigns Supreme new [Re: Tafoid]
#303296 - 01/26/13 03:03 PM


> > Ok thanks smith, I have to test it all, the non-mame hacks :P
> >
> > And, maybe is a nerd question, but why the mamedevs don't like to include the new
> > dumped hacks, and official mame is full of sf2ce hacks as koryu, m2,m3,.....m1000?¿
> >
> > :S
> >
> > Peace.
>
> It's not that MAME doesn't want these, it is just not as high on the immediate
> priority list for most developers. I myself tried to add one of the last 3..
> "mstreet-6" or whatever it was and I failed to add it. It takes more than normal
> replace this with that skills to add some clones either due to new rom configs or
> added data. I gave it the 'college try'. External contributions are welcome from
> anyone who can add these sets, of course.

Hi tafoid,

Try to contact Treble Winner (FBA main dev) as those sf2 hacks are emulated in FBA (with some others sf2 bootlegs dumps by Bonky0013)

best regards,
JacKc.





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